Mike, When you began your course you may have been given a CD with various applications on it, to assist you with your study. The CD include things like a PDF viewer, Word viewer and a whole bunch of stuff including the First Class application. You can install this and access all your First Class conferences through it. It allows you to download all your messages and read them offline, and I think to move them and store them etc. It is allegedly Jaws friendly, and may by now be so, but I began using the web back then and haven't found sufficient reason to try installing the application again. Hope this makes sense. Tink. Tink. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Flood Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:29 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptops - Open University Tink, despite finding your initial sentence a little alarming, this browser/application distinction was something I hadn't immediately grasped. Were you suggesting that the first Class Server was supposed to be Jaws friendly. Anyway, the good news is that following your instructions: the crucial step being using "m" for finding the message frame, all is now revealed. So many thanks. Mike >>> tink@xxxxxxxxxx 03/23/06 9:34 am >>> Mike, I'm using First Class through the browser, rather than through the provided application. I believe the application is supposed to be Jaws friendly, but I have never found it to be particularly so. Apologies for not making this distinction previously, I've been studying with the OU since 2002 and had forgotten about the application interface. In case it is the web interface you are having difficulty with, I'll go through the process I use to locate and read a post to the First Class conferences with the OU. I'll use the OU Service News conference, which should be available on all students First Class desktop. 1. Follow the OU Service News link to open the OU Service News conference. 2. From the table of messages, select the message from Susan Pearce, with the subject line, "OU Computing Helpdesk lunchtime closure Thurs 26 January". 3. Press the m key four times, to move to the fourth frame on the page. 4. Use the down arrow key to move through the header information for the message, including Subject, To, From and Date information. 5. Continue down the page to read the body of the message. 6. Return to the top of the page and press the t key, to move to the first table, where all other messages in this conference are listed. 7. Repeat steps 2 onwards to read another message. I believe that if you wish to use the web interface, you need to uninstall the First Class application from your computer and then follow the link from your course web site to the First Class conference. This should then use the browser to connect to the First Class system, instead of the application. HTH, Tink. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Flood" <Mike.Flood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptops - Open University Tink, As I say the cursor whether in Jaws or PC mode simply reads the title of the various fields, it maybe that I'm omitting to use a particular keystroke to access the message field, but i have no idea what I'm doing wrong. this is a problem common both to my PC at work jaws 5.0 and my laptop with 7.0 version at home. Feel free to email me direct on the mike.flood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx address ifyou should care to enlighten me on other aspects of O.U. study. I've only just started a law qualification W100. Mike >>> tink@xxxxxxxxxx 03/22/06 5:16 pm >>> Mike, I'm about two thirds through my second degree, studying via the OU for this one. I don't have any trouble accessing the FC conferences, although I prefer not to on account of the fact they're not user friendly, rather than that they're not accessible. Can you give any more information on the problems you're having? Tink. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Flood" <Mike.Flood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Laptops - Open University Hi All, Does it matter whether you have the keyboard layout set to either Laptop Classic or just plain Laptop in the options of the Jaws menu. What's the difference? A long shot, anyone ever studied at the Open University - if so any advice on accessing their conferences. I can read the from subject date fields but not the messages. thanks in advance Mike CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual, persons or entity to whom it is addressed. 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