[jaws-uk] Re: Laptops - Open University

Tink,

You are right, correct, spot on, crystal clear: I did get the CD but
didn't bother with it. I shall now have a look at it.

Many thanks.

Mike

>>> tink@xxxxxxxxxx 03/23/06 9:10 pm >>>
Mike,

        When you began your course you may have been given a CD with
various
applications on it, to assist you with your study.

        The CD include things like a PDF viewer, Word viewer and a
whole
bunch of stuff including the First Class application.

        You can install this and access all your First Class
conferences
through it. It allows you to download all your messages and read them
offline, and I think to move them and store them etc.


        It is allegedly Jaws friendly, and may by now be so, but I
began
using the web back then and haven't found sufficient reason to try
installing the application again.

        Hope this makes sense.

Tink. 
Tink. 

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Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:29
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Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptops - Open University

Tink,

despite finding your initial sentence a little alarming, this
browser/application distinction was something I hadn't immediately
grasped.
Were you suggesting that the first Class Server was supposed to be
Jaws
friendly.

Anyway, the good news is that following your instructions: the crucial
step
being using "m" for finding the message frame, all is now revealed.


So many thanks.

Mike

>>> tink@xxxxxxxxxx 03/23/06 9:34 am >>>
Mike,

    I'm using First Class through the browser, rather than through the

provided application. I believe the application is supposed to be Jaws

friendly, but I have never found it to be particularly so. Apologies
for not
making this distinction previously, I've been studying with the OU
since
2002 and had forgotten about the application interface.

    In case it is the web interface you are having difficulty with,
I'll go
through the process I use to locate and read a post to the First Class

conferences with the OU. I'll use the OU Service News conference,
which

should be available on all students First Class desktop.

1. Follow the OU Service News link to open the OU Service News
conference.
2. From the table of messages, select the message from Susan Pearce,
with
the subject line, "OU Computing Helpdesk lunchtime closure Thurs 26
January".
3. Press the m key four times, to move to the fourth frame on the
page.
4. Use the down arrow key to move through the header information for
the
message, including Subject, To, From and Date information.
5. Continue down the page to read the body of the message.
6. Return to the top of the page and press the t key, to move to the
first
table, where all other messages in this conference are listed.
7. Repeat steps 2 onwards to read another message.

    I believe that if you wish to use the web interface, you need to
uninstall the First Class application from your computer and then
follow the
link from your course web site to the First Class conference. This
should
then use the browser to connect to  the First Class system, instead of
the
application.


HTH,
Tink.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Flood" <Mike.Flood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptops - Open University


Tink,

As I say the cursor whether in Jaws or PC mode simply reads the title
of the various fields, it maybe that I'm omitting to use a particular
keystroke to access the message field, but i have no idea what I'm
doing
wrong. this is a problem common both to my PC at work jaws 5.0 and my
laptop with 7.0 version at home.

Feel free to email me direct on the mike.flood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
address ifyou should care to   enlighten me on other aspects of O.U.
study. I've only just started a law qualification W100.

Mike

>>> tink@xxxxxxxxxx 03/22/06 5:16 pm >>>
Mike,

    I'm about two thirds through my second degree, studying via the OU
for
this one. I don't have any trouble accessing the FC conferences,
although I
prefer not to on account of the fact they're not user friendly, rather
than
that they're not accessible.


    Can you give any more information on the problems you're having?

Tink.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Flood" <Mike.Flood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Laptops - Open University


Hi All,

Does it matter whether you have the keyboard layout set to either
Laptop Classic or just plain Laptop in the options of the Jaws menu.
What's the difference?

A long shot, anyone ever studied  at the Open University - if so any
advice on accessing their conferences. I can read the from subject
date
fields but not the messages.

thanks in advance

Mike

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