Hmmm....I'm not sure what you mean by semi-auto.... The only true auto-route engine in Allegro that I'm aware of is Specctra a.k.a CCT. Any manual editing done within the Allegro GUI is done via the Allegro interactive router, (Add Connect, Slide, Delay Tune... Etc...) I suppose Delay Tune could be considered semi-auto.... Regarding manual routing in Specctra: In general I find the Specctra GUI and pull-down menus easier to navigate and the trace editing more intuitive. You don't have to worry about, Bubble (hug/shove) settings, it replaces etch by default, if you set line lock to 45 you can do either 45 or 90 not just 45s.... , You can toggle between move/slide and add-connect with the RMB. Same net checking can be enabled/disabled with the RMB pop-up menu. I can easily do some auto-routing, and then do manual cleanup/adjustments without going back into Allegro after each auto-route pass. There is also a laundry list of things I like better about Allegro's interactive routing too, so I tend to use both tools depending on what I'm doing and where I am at in the design cycle. Your mileage may vary....... In addition, I suspect I have a little bias towards Specctra because I used it for about 5 years before I ever started using Cadence/Allegro tools. Do files are my friends....... ;-) Regards, Randy -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:48 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: The router... Hi Randy, > The auto-router built into Allegro is the Specctra router. Sounds like a semantics issue. The auto-router that comes WITH Allegro (it is an entirely separate program) is Specctra, the "router" (it's semi-auto IMO, not fully auto, like Specctra is) that is in Allegro is not Specctra. > In addition to auto-routing it [Specctra[ has excellent interactive > route editing capability too. I find that there are some things I like > doing with the Specctra route editor and others with the Allegro route editor. That's what I'd like to hear about. I haven't used the Specctra interactive routing, and would like to know what things you feel it is better at than the Allegro interactive router. Regards, Austin ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------