thanks paul. and jennny's response is the first time I have scene any real address on why the bp users lag behind icon users. and maybe that she has responded, we will stop speculating as to why. On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:54:43 -0700, Paul Henrichsen wrote: >Good message, Jenny. But you know. It's just a bit of friendly discussion. >Nothing derogatory in it. At least not for me. >It's just friendly banter between friends<grin>. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:12 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus > >Please guys, this is really not necessary, and none of this will make the >docking stations for the braille + come any faster. You need to remember >that LevelStar originally invented the Icon, and had worked on it for over a > >year before APH even came in to the picture. They established a partnership > >because APH liked what LevelStar was doing, but wanted something with a >Braille keyboard. If you'll recall, the Braille + did not begin shipping >until almost 6 months after the Icon. In other words, these products have >never been on the same development cycles as far as hardware is concerned. >There is absolutely no preference given to non-braille users, and we have >nothing against Braille + users, nor do we intentionally put you in second >place. It just is, and always has been the process of things. The >advantage is, we can get some things ironed out with the Icon version, and >when it gets to you guys, you have a cleaner, more bug free product. For >instance, you Braille + users had rescue partitions from the get go. Older >Icon users had to reflash using external drives which required them to go >download software, hook up their drives, and the reflash took longer. > >we're glad to hear that you all are excited about the docking stations and >are chomping at the bit to buy them. But getting disgusted over what you >assume is discriminatory or preferencial treatment is really unwarranted. >It is simply the logical order of things, nothing more. Since The Icon was >in development long before the Braille +, it stands to reason, that future >hardware development for Icon might have a bit of a head start over such >things for the Braille +. As far as pricing and availability of the Braille > >+ docking station, you will simply need to wait for APH to announce such >things. They'll do it when they're ready, and not before. > > > > >Jenny > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "denise avant" <dravant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:03 PM >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus > > >hello >Braille plus owners have never received any explaination for why the docking > >station lags behind the icon. And >I make no apology for wanting to use Braille. if an explaination were >offered, Then we would not all be >guessing. since some of the more recent upgrades the product is really >starting to be reliable and stable. But >the customer relations side with regard to the braille plus can sometime be >lacking. and that's unfortunate. >On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:29:58 -0700, Paul Henrichsen wrote: > > >>How do you know that the braille plus case will require different hardware >>and firmware in its design? >>Do you know something we don't<grin>? >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Dresser >>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:59 PM >>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus >> >>Chase, >> >>There's more to the process than just changing the shape of the case. >>Though similar to the Icon in many respects, the Braille+ is still >>different >> >>enough to require a different docking station design, both in hardware and >>firmware. I know summer can seem pretty long, but it goes by pretty >>quickly. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. >> >>Steve >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Chase Crispin" <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 21:32 >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus >> >> >>We have heard this summer; If you think about it, fall is quite a long >>time, to make one plastic peace just >>a little bit wider. >>On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:27:33 -0400, Steve Dresser wrote: >> >> >>>Do step=children drool? I heard there would be a docking station for the >>>Braille+ some time next fall. However, that's not official. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 16:49 >>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus >>> >>> >>>>I just listened to Jenny's podcast on the docking station. >>>> >>>>Oh, oh, oh, I want one. >>>> >>>>I guess Braille Plus users are going to have to stand back like step >>>>children and drool. <big grin> >>>> >>>>C'mon, APH! We're all lined up and waiting! >>>> >>>>Crystal >>>>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>>>subject line to: >>>> >>>>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>>To post to this list, send your message to: >>>> >>>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille >>>>+, Visit >>>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>> >>>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>>subject line to: >>> >>>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>To post to this list, send your message to: >>> >>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille >>>+, >>>Visit >>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >> >> >>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >> >>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>subject line to: >> >>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>To post to this list, send your message to: >> >>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille >>+, >>Visit >>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >> >> >>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >>database 3165 (20080606) __________ >> >>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >>database 3165 (20080606) __________ >> >>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >>http://www.eset.com >> >> >>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >> >>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>subject line to: >> >>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>To post to this list, send your message to: >> >>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille >>+, >>Visit >>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html