[icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus

  • From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:51:32 -0700

Oh, but I hope your clients don't decide to wait until things are bug free.
The icon and braille plus units are so neat. There really isn't anything
that I an think of that prevents me from getting and listening to podcasts,
sending and receiving mail and browsing the web. The only thing I haven't
tried is the word processor.
I have over 300 contacts and I use my icon all the time to look something
up.
I just haven't found any bug so far that is a show stopper for me<grin>.
As far as I am concerned, wanting it to be as good as it can, 
As soon as the docking station for the braille plus is announced, I am
there.


-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy W
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 11:31 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus


Hi Paul,

We've both been in the adaptive business for years and I agree that nothing
is ever bug free. I worry that more bells and whistles will be added to the
unit before known butgs are fixed in the word processor (just one example)
My clients don't want to jump on the bandwagon until the problems with the
word processor, nls books, and podcasting issues are resolved.

We can all name a couple of companies who put new features in an upgrade and
don't deal with known and irritating bugs. I hope the developers will take
our concerns concerning known seriously...

Just my opinion,

Judy Watford


-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chase Crispin
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 1:10 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus


You are correct, Paul, according to both LevelStar and APH for the last 2
years.
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:35:15 -0700, Paul Henrichsen wrote:


>I think there are already some bugs in the icon doc. Aren't there? At least
>I heard of some keys that don't say what they are for in learn mode and
then
>there was that one person who said the microphone didn't work properly.
>Never did hear what happened with that one.
>I thought there were one or two more, but don't remember.
>I don't think that anything computer related is ever bug free. It always
>puzzles me when people think that if we wait just a little bit longer that
>we will get something that is perfect and bug free.
>As far as I know, the icon and braille plus are exactly the same regarding
>firmware. It's just the case that is different, hence the different piece
of
>plastic.
>If I'm wrong, someone please correct me, but I thought these units were
>identical except for the case and with the newly shipping units, the size
of
>the hard drive.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chase Crispin
>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:25 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus
>
>I am not trying to rush APH in any way, but if everything is the same
except
>the little peace, there
>is only going to be the already known dock bugs, right?
>On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:19:51 -0700, Linda Gehres wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Chase,
>>Granted, I'm probably the least technical person on list, but I guess my
>>feeling is that I applaud Levelstar and APH for making things right and as
>>bug-free from the get go as possible, whereas perhaps if new equipment is
>>rushed into, there can be unforeseen problems the consumer faces later.
>>Like you, I'm really interested in seeing the braille docking station but
>>realize there may be parts needed for the manufacture of the docking
>>stations for the Braille+ which aren't required on the Icon.  I would
>indeed
>>be curious to know whether differences between the Icon and Braille+ go
>>further than just the hardware, casing, ... that kind of thing.  Hope I'm
>>asking my question clearly enough, and I apologize for not having greater
>>technical ability with which to express my thoughts more clearly.
>>
>>Linda G.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:05 PM
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus
>>
>>
>>We have all been told many many times.  All that has to be changed is one
>>plastic peace.  What is
>>different in the firmware?  Icon and Braille Plus are the same besides the
>>braille keyboard on the
>>BP.  Would anyone else want to discuss this?
>>On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:58:44 -0400, Steve Dresser wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chase,
>>>
>>>There's more to the process than just changing the shape of the case.
>>>Though similar to the Icon in many respects, the Braille+ is still
>>>different
>>>enough to require a different docking station design, both in hardware
and
>>>firmware.  I know summer can seem pretty long, but it goes by pretty
>>>quickly.  I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 21:32
>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus
>>>
>>>
>>>We have heard this summer;  If you think about it, fall is quite a long
>>>time, to make one plastic peace just
>>>a little bit wider.
>>>On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:27:33 -0400, Steve Dresser wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Do step=children drool?  I heard there would be a docking station for
the
>>>>Braille+ some time next fall.  However, that's not official.
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 16:49
>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just listened to Jenny's podcast on the docking station.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, oh, oh, I want one.
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess Braille Plus users are going to have to stand back like step
>>>>>children and drool.  <big grin>
>>>>>
>>>>>C'mon, APH!  We're all lined up and waiting!
>>>>>
>>>>>Crystal
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>>>>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and
>Braille
>>>>>+, Visit
>>>>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages:
>>>>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at
>>>>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php
>>>>>Visit the APH FAQ page at
>>>>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Braille
>>>>+,
>>>>Visit
>>>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages:
>>>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at
>>>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php
>>>>Visit the APH FAQ page at
>>>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html
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>>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille
>>>+,
>>>Visit
>>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages:
>>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at
>>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php
>>>Visit the APH FAQ page at
>>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html
>>
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>+,
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>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php
>>Visit the APH FAQ page at
>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html
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>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php
>Visit the APH FAQ page at
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For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, 
Visit
the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages:
Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at
http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php
Visit the APH FAQ page at
http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html

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