You are correct, Paul, according to both LevelStar and APH for the last 2 years. On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:35:15 -0700, Paul Henrichsen wrote: >I think there are already some bugs in the icon doc. Aren't there? At least >I heard of some keys that don't say what they are for in learn mode and then >there was that one person who said the microphone didn't work properly. >Never did hear what happened with that one. >I thought there were one or two more, but don't remember. >I don't think that anything computer related is ever bug free. It always >puzzles me when people think that if we wait just a little bit longer that >we will get something that is perfect and bug free. >As far as I know, the icon and braille plus are exactly the same regarding >firmware. It's just the case that is different, hence the different piece of >plastic. >If I'm wrong, someone please correct me, but I thought these units were >identical except for the case and with the newly shipping units, the size of >the hard drive. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chase Crispin >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:25 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus > >I am not trying to rush APH in any way, but if everything is the same except >the little peace, there >is only going to be the already known dock bugs, right? >On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:19:51 -0700, Linda Gehres wrote: > > >>Hi Chase, >>Granted, I'm probably the least technical person on list, but I guess my >>feeling is that I applaud Levelstar and APH for making things right and as >>bug-free from the get go as possible, whereas perhaps if new equipment is >>rushed into, there can be unforeseen problems the consumer faces later. >>Like you, I'm really interested in seeing the braille docking station but >>realize there may be parts needed for the manufacture of the docking >>stations for the Braille+ which aren't required on the Icon. I would >indeed >>be curious to know whether differences between the Icon and Braille+ go >>further than just the hardware, casing, ... that kind of thing. Hope I'm >>asking my question clearly enough, and I apologize for not having greater >>technical ability with which to express my thoughts more clearly. >> >>Linda G. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Chase Crispin" <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:05 PM >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus >> >> >>We have all been told many many times. All that has to be changed is one >>plastic peace. What is >>different in the firmware? Icon and Braille Plus are the same besides the >>braille keyboard on the >>BP. Would anyone else want to discuss this? >>On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:58:44 -0400, Steve Dresser wrote: >> >> >>>Chase, >>> >>>There's more to the process than just changing the shape of the case. >>>Though similar to the Icon in many respects, the Braille+ is still >>>different >>>enough to require a different docking station design, both in hardware and >>>firmware. I know summer can seem pretty long, but it goes by pretty >>>quickly. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 21:32 >>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus >>> >>> >>>We have heard this summer; If you think about it, fall is quite a long >>>time, to make one plastic peace just >>>a little bit wider. >>>On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:27:33 -0400, Steve Dresser wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Do step=children drool? I heard there would be a docking station for the >>>>Braille+ some time next fall. However, that's not official. >>>> >>>>Steve >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 16:49 >>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Docking for the Braille plus >>>> >>>> >>>>>I just listened to Jenny's podcast on the docking station. >>>>> >>>>>Oh, oh, oh, I want one. >>>>> >>>>>I guess Braille Plus users are going to have to stand back like step >>>>>children and drool. <big grin> >>>>> >>>>>C'mon, APH! We're all lined up and waiting! >>>>> >>>>>Crystal >>>>>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>>>> >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in >the >>>>>subject line to: >>>>> >>>>>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>>To post to this list, send your message to: >>>>> >>>>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and >Braille >>>>>+, Visit >>>>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>>>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>>>subject line to: >>>> >>>>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>>To post to this list, send your message to: >>>> >>>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille >>>>+, >>>>Visit >>>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >>> >>> >>>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>> >>>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>>subject line to: >>> >>>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>To post to this list, send your message to: >>> >>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille >>>+, >>>Visit >>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG. >>Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1487 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 >>8:01 AM >> >>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >> >>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>subject line to: >> >>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>To post to this list, send your message to: >> >>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille >+, >>Visit >>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html