[ibis-macro] Re: Epiphany

  • From: "Todd Westerhoff (twesterh)" <twesterh@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:54:04 -0500

The question of "what do we do for the vendors where everything is
blank?" is EXACTLY what I want the viewer to ask.  There are two
questions
that should arise from the slide:

1) If we pick Verilog-A, what about the VHDL-AMS only vendors?
2) No matter what we pick, what about vendors without -A or -AMS
support?

Remember the slide appears before we introduce the macro approach, as
part of the description of the problem.  I'm suggesting that our
approach to multiple language support arises in response to the natural
questions posed by slide 4.

I'll change the slide if the group wants, but I actually think it's
simpler and more straightforward this way ("this is the problem we were
up against").  The other thing that deleting the substitution column did
was eliminate the issue of whether we were declaring vendor's future
plans or not.  The slide simply shows current tool language support as
represented by the vendors.  

Comments are welcome and appreciated.

Todd.  

Todd Westerhoff
High Speed Design Group Manager
Cisco Systems
1414 Massachusetts Ave
Boxboro, MA   01719
email:twesterh@xxxxxxxxx
ph: 978-936-2149
____________________________________________
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-----Original Message-----
From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:04 PM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Epiphany

I tend to agree with Bob's opinion that something should be mentioned
about substitution on that chart.
It looks empty this way begging the question why those vendors/tools are
listed then... 

Arpad
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-----Original Message-----
From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Ross
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:01 AM
To: twesterh@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Epiphany

Todd:

Details - should put your name as author since this will be stored as
westerhoff.pdf, etc.

Looks OK, but not clear why two vendors are listed with no checks.
need some footnote or explaination that they would probably use a SPICE
mapping solution (substitution), but still could be supported.

Slide 11 - ok, but could correct the syntax in the boxes, but not
critical.

Bob

Todd Westerhoff (twesterh) wrote:

> Take a look at slide 4.
>  
> It occurred to me that the vendor / tool / language matrix was better 
> suited to describing why we picked the approach we did.  As such, I've

> removed the "substitution" column and moved it forward in the
presentation.
>  
> - It now explains why we picked Verilog-A as our initial 
> implementation language (most tool support)
> - It also explains why we needed VHDL-AMS support (key vendor support)
> - Adding Sigrity and Apsim shows why we needed a substitution scheme 
> and, by extension, adherence to basic SPICE element types
>  
> Comments are welcome and appreciated.
>  
> Todd.
> 
> Todd Westerhoff
> High Speed Design Group Manager
> Cisco Systems
> 1414 Massachusetts Ave
> Boxboro, MA   01719
> email:twesterh@xxxxxxxxx
> ph: 978-936-2149
> ____________________________________________
> "Always do right.
>  This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."
>  
> - Mark Twain
>  

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