looking at what I saw of the official dvd standards books it seemed more like all of the DVD, the menu and which streams to play, was a stream.. though in thinking about it, I bet we're both seeing two sides of the same coin.. the raw udf disk format could be the entire bitstream the books i read were actually decoding. I'm talking the raw lower level format vs looking at the disc via explorer or tracker -jtarbox > > Well.. whether or not UDF is used on the disc, the DVD decoding is done as > a > > bit stream.. I have seen the source code, read a little of the official > > standards book (wow, two pages worth of it and I got a headache) Just > going > > by what I saw.. Terminator running with overlay support within BeOS > > sure all media encoding is done as a stream. however, you have to know where > to > find the stream. that's why UDF is important. on nearly all videos you don't > have just > one stream, you have multiple files and multiple streams for different > things. in order, > to properly play DVD's you have to support UDF to access the stream. know > where > it starts and such. the DVD standard encompasses much more than the mpeg2 > stream. > it specifies silly things like finding files in the VIDEO_TS directory and > knowing what > files to open first and when to open other files and such. it's really quite > important to > playing a DVD video correctly. > > apologies if i came across as an ass. just trying to point out why UDF is > important :) > > > -soco > > >