>>Poor you :-) > >Why poor? you should really emphsize the ";-)" more in this sentence .... He probably should have, but I certainly understood it, and I think that most people did. ;-) I mean - this is a BeOS related list... ;-) ;-) ;-) >The only advantage i have found from user-view is the blazingly fast gui. >and thats a HUGE advantage. For example the networking is rather poor in >BeOS... You know, people keep saying that... And I guess from a certain point of view, it is probably true. I know the technical aspects of it... But let me just ask... Unless you are writing a web server (i.e. apache) or admin'ing a network (and need traceroute), who cares? I mean - I use Win2K at work (poor me) and R5 here. I can't detect any reasonable difference between the two for networking. Both get me my email, both surf web sites. Both do what *AVERAGE* users want. In fact, as a desktop OS, I can't think of too much that I would do to improve R5's networking. Now, sure, as a coder, I want it to work with select. And needing to start additional threads can make my code a little tougher to write. But it isn't as bad as people seem to think, IMHO. I think that time is *WAY* better spent thinking about new features and such than dwelling on this. >Maybe it's because (as i see it) linux is more meant for >networked-PCs/serrvers and BeOS is multimedia/desktop-only... Exactly. If there is a downfall to Linux, it will be in the fact that there is no one to say "no". Sure, Linus runs the kernel. But there is no overarching vision for the WHOLE system. Linux doesn't have a stated goal of "We will be the best server OS" or "we will be a desktop OS" or "we will run everywhere". There is a lot of energy in the Linux community that is flowing into stuff that either never happens or no one cares about. *PERSONALLY*, I think that if the Linux community ever really wanted to get serious about an alternative to Windows, they would ... come here. Why? Simple. Despite some implementation issues, I think that most people would agree that BeOS is one of the, if not the best desktop experience ever. I have used about everything out there (except OSX). And the desktop experience is why I am here. That and the API. >But to mention it again: the fast gui is the reason why i use BeOS, and it >is the reason why i use windows. I haven't found a fast, good looking gui >for *nix. >If there would be a decent gui i think much more people would use linux. >But what to do if the X architecture is pretty much the only one available >for graphics on *nix? There are a *TON* more reasons. How about the nice configuration? You can set up and run BeOS for years without ever editing a configuration file. How about boot time? How about never needing to fsck or defrag your hard drive. How about workspaces (Windows doesn't have this) or a standard, decent look and feel (which X doesn't have). And don't even get me started on the API. BeOS is still, IMHO, the place to be. And not just for one reason, but for 20 or more. Does that mean that we do not still have challenges and issues? Heck no. This is not the Promised Land. Not yet. But this is better than (if you will pardon the metaphor) Microsoft Egypt or the wandering in the Linux desert.