[openbeos] Re: Hi I am new and I have questions

man you said it..I agree with you fully. "or the wandering in the Linux
desert" this is dam true..I mean I just installed RedHat 8 and I can
remember why I hate linux..I just want to install KDEVELOP 3 on top of 2.1.3
and it tells me that a newer version is already installed!!! What ever
people say..Windows is still far in the future when it comes to
productivity. BeOS on the other hand ha a huge lack of drivers and tools,
but by far is much better than windows..why? The "for historic reasons" code
is not so big in BeOS comparing with windows....and also because $$$Bill$$$
has nothing to do with it.. :)

regards, 
Valentin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Phipps [mailto:mphipps1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 27. November 2002 01:53
> To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [openbeos] Re: Hi I am new and I have questions
> 
> 
> >>Poor you :-)
> >
> >Why poor? you should really emphsize the ";-)" more in this 
> sentence ....
> 
> He probably should have, but I certainly understood it, and I 
> think that most people did. ;-)
> I mean - this is a BeOS related list... ;-) ;-) ;-)
> 
> >The only advantage i have found  from user-view is the 
> blazingly fast gui. 
> >and thats a HUGE advantage. For example the networking is 
> rather poor in 
> >BeOS...
> 
> You know, people keep saying that... And I guess from a 
> certain point of view, it is
> probably true. I know the technical aspects of it... But let 
> me just ask...
> Unless you are writing a web server (i.e. apache) or 
> admin'ing a network (and need traceroute),
> who cares? I mean - I use Win2K at work (poor me) and R5 
> here. I can't detect any reasonable difference
> between the two for networking. Both get me my email, both 
> surf web sites. Both do what *AVERAGE*
> users want. In fact, as a desktop OS, I can't think of too 
> much that I would do to improve 
> R5's networking. Now, sure, as a coder, I want it to work 
> with select. And needing to start additional
> threads can make my code a little tougher to write. But it 
> isn't as bad as people seem to think, IMHO.
> I think that time is *WAY* better spent thinking about new 
> features and such than dwelling on this.
> 
> >Maybe it's because (as i see it) linux is more meant for 
> >networked-PCs/serrvers and BeOS is multimedia/desktop-only...
> 
> Exactly. If there is a downfall to Linux, it will be in the 
> fact that there is 
> no one to say "no". Sure, Linus runs the kernel. But there is 
> no overarching vision
> for the WHOLE system. Linux doesn't have a stated goal of "We 
> will be the best
> server OS" or "we will be a desktop OS" or "we will run 
> everywhere". There is a lot of
> energy in the Linux community that is flowing into stuff that 
> either never happens or
> no one cares about. 
> 
> *PERSONALLY*, I think that if the Linux community ever really 
> wanted to get serious
> about an alternative to Windows, they would ... come here. 
> Why? Simple. Despite some
> implementation issues, I think that most people would agree 
> that BeOS is one of the, if not 
> the best desktop experience ever. I have used about 
> everything out there (except OSX).
> And the desktop experience is why I am here. That and the API.
> 
> >But to mention it again: the fast gui is the reason why i 
> use BeOS, and it 
> >is the reason why i use windows. I haven't found a fast, 
> good looking gui 
> >for *nix.
> >If there would be a decent gui i think much more people 
> would use linux. 
> >But what to do if the X architecture is pretty much the only 
> one available 
> >for graphics on *nix?
> 
> There are a *TON* more reasons. How about the nice 
> configuration? You can set up and run
> BeOS for years without ever editing a configuration file. How 
> about boot time? How about never
> needing to fsck or defrag your hard drive. How about 
> workspaces (Windows doesn't have this) or
> a standard, decent look and feel (which X doesn't have). And 
> don't even get me started on the API.
> 
> BeOS is still, IMHO, the place to be. And not just for one 
> reason, but for 20 or more. Does that mean
> that we do not still have challenges and issues? Heck no. 
> This is not the Promised Land. Not yet. But
> this is better than (if you will pardon the metaphor) 
> Microsoft Egypt or the wandering in the Linux desert.
> 
>

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