To give another example of what the quality concerns are: today, I've spent more than 8 hours trying to fix a problem in Pe. Doing the actual fix in code took about 15 mins. The rest of the time was spent trying to build the three packages of Pe for x86_gcc2, x86 and x86_64. During that process, I've noticed and fixed a problem in the binutils recipe, which caused binutils to require flex without declaring that (so binutils would work on a full Haiku installation but not in the chroots haikuporter uses for building. When that was fixed and Pe had been built for all three architectures, I noticed that it was using libpcre-8.33, which is the newest version in the haikuports tree, but isn't contained in the actual HaikuPorts repositories used by Haiku. So, the built Pe packages wouldn't work when I'd upload them ... cheers, Oliver (drama queen) Those builds are not part of the official release goals for R1afaik , first and foremost, Gcc2 and hybrids afaik for x86 are all that is officially supported. The others are relegated as nightlys. So while the work is appreciated it is not mandatory for Haiku R1 alpha or betas of any variety because they are unsupported variants. Sean