Steve wrote: > Greetings Geo list... > Here's a thought...Let's take a flashlight, a softball and a ping-pong ball. > Let the flashlight or lantern act as the sun in both scenarios. Ok...1st > scenario: Place the lantern in the center of the room. Place the Softball > out some distance from it, representing the earth and let the ping-pong ball > be revolving around the softball, representing the moon. NOW...as these move > above there will be both solar and lunar eclipses...nothing new there, BUT > here's something to make note of....the ability to "predict" them...ok? > That's important to remember. NOW...the 2nd scenario: Place the Softball at > the center of the room. Place the ping-pong ball a little ways out and let > it revolve around the softball, representing the moon again. Place the > lantern out even further...let it represent the sun and allow it to also > revolve around the softball. NOW...the solar and lunar effects as seen from > earth are the SAME...BUT...hold on....can you equally predict and see the > SAME number of both types of eclipses AND at the same times as with a > heliocentric system? Yes. There is no difference. I don't know where this idea that there could be a difference comes from but it is completely flawed. > There's the catch...Can any one here show a table, > mathematically that would correctly and equally represent the number of and > dates of both past and future eclipses? NOW...IF BOTH scenarios correspond > exactly to what is observed....then one is back to square one in either > argument.... If you want to debunk basic geometry then you provide the proof please. All you have to do is show how you can get a different prediction regarding the relative motions of a bunch of bodies by changing your co-ordinate system. >BUT if one does NOT match with the obviously passed observed > eclipses....well...we have a winner :-) Go figure cobbers.....literally :-) Well they actually use the heliocentric model because it's easier and they make very accurate predictions so if you had a point (which you don't) then you'd only prove that the geostationary model is wrong anyway. Regards, Mike.