On 12 Aug, Philip <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > NOW...the solar and lunar effects as seen from > earth are the SAME...BUT...hold on....can you equally predict and see the > SAME number of both types of eclipses AND at the same times as with a > heliocentric system? Yes. The ancients could predict the motion of the planets and the eclipses quite well. It was complicated, but you can't tell the difference by considering the moon (which is why I knew that Neville's paper was incorrect)! Alan