[geocentrism] Re: Knowledge is NOT intelligence.
- From: geocentric@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:53:25 +0100
Dear Philip,
If there is an aether that has some sort of physical reality then it
must create drag fror objects moving relative to it. Analogies are only
good at describing something, they prove nothing whatsoever and often
break down when pushed too far. Your record analogy is useful here. If
the whole universe were rigid your aether theory would be plausible.
This sort of rigid (or elastic) aether seemed to be what you were
saying. But binary stars move very rapidly relative to the rest of the
universe. Your analogy with electrons is not so useful, why electrons
stayed put in their orbits was a mystery to classical physics. Quantum
physics explains it (if you can call quantum physics an explanation). I
never got the impression though that binary stars are the "electrons" of
your aether.
Your thoughts on the aether, with no physical existence, and it's
shaping itself around matter, sound more and more like curved spacetime.
Why don't you check out some articles here:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/
Regards,
Mike.
Philip wrote:
> For the simple reason, as I have already explained, that binary
> stars rotating round each other in a viscous medium would slow down and
> stop! They don't!
>
> Alan
>
> Your being obstructionist again Alan, without reading what i said, or else
> you cannot comprehend. Read this again,
>
>> "then there is no reason such a disc would not
>>carry along any objects within its envelope, in the same way perhaps an
>>electron in a molecule of a LP record may whilst it does its normal
>>orbital thing, still migrate out under purely local forces to the rim of
>>the record."
>
>
> If you comprehended this reality, then a binary star doing its thing or
> planets or space ships do not meet any opposition any more than does the
> electrons and protons and spaceship particles doing their local orbits in
> the rotating long playing record. As the molecules of the record will
> experience a strain away from the centre, due to centrifugal force, which
> means also the particles of its nuclear composition , they neverthe less
> still rotate with the universal mass of the record without any hindrance to
> their local orbits or migrating movements.
>
> You just took my "viscous viscousity" too literally. As a physicist you
> should have easily seen that the record is more than viscous, but really
> solid, yet in reality has more empty space than any solid matter within its
> confines. It is a good analogy. It has been used by many real scientists.
>
> This is the analogy of the universe I have been trying to get across for
> days and which you continually refuse to acknowledge, by throwing in
> obstructionist distractions that shows your lack of comprehending reasonable
> assertions in simple english. If I can be of any further help, I will
> respond , if you wish, privately, as I do not want this list being
> sidetracked from its real objectives by repeated arguments.
>
>
> Of course I realise you may be having great fun and probably laughing your
> head off . I don't mind. I have no ego, nor any nerves to be hurt. I start
> from the premise that I am the lowliest of the low, but I can tell the
> difference between the useful and the useless.
>
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Still futile arguments.
>
>
> On 13 Aug, Philip <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> F
>
>>I wasn't quoting any theory. You asked or questioned the proposal, where
>>did the energy come from as the peripheral speed increased with distance
>>from the centre.in a rotating body . I had said previously that if the
>>Universal mass was rotating like as if it were a viscous material disk
>>(I explained that before) then there is no reason such a disc wouldnot
>>carry along any objects within its envelope, in the same way perhaps an
>>electron in a molecule of a LP record may whilst it does its normal
>>orbital thing, still migrate out under purely local forces to the rim of
>>the record.
>
>
>>That happens doesn't it? Why not possible on universal scale?
>
>
> For the simple reason, as I have already explained, that binary
> stars rotating round each other in a viscous medium would slow down and
> stop! They don't!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
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