Dear Cheryl, This is a perfectly reasonable assumption and one that I had never heard before. I think this falls into the same category as the astronauts saying that they didn't see the stars either. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group. > A friend told me the whole moon landing thing was staged in Las Vegas, that > the film crew all had untimely deaths later, and they were pacified with > hookers and parties during hte shoot. > > If they did go to the moon I'd like to know why not one single astronaut has > commented about observing the earth turning. I realize that it takes 12 > hours for one side of the earth to completely move around, but it would > still be apparent to anyone looking that the earth was turning. > > If you went to the moon and believed the earth was turning, wouldn't you > want to brag about having seen it with your own two eyes? > > Cheryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan" <danchap9@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:36 AM > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group. > > > > I think the Russians sent an unmanned probe to the moon knowing full well > about the Van Allen belt would fry any person that went through it. I saw > the video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" that was posted > here a few days ago. That was very good a sealed it for me. There is no way > that they ever went to the moon. Could be the radiation belt is designed by > God to keep us here. Fallen man that is. The bible says that one day we will > meet the lord in the air: > > > > > > > > > > 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with > the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in > Christ shall rise first: > > > > 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together > with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever > be with the Lord. > > > > 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. > > > > Pre post or a I don't really care you know the big dogmatic debate about > the rapture or as I call it the catching away of the saints. > > > > Interesting verse maybe that's when our fleshly bodies will burn up in the > atmosphere and we receive our hevenly bodies. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Dan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dan -- This relativity thing-- I just don't get it. There are sites which > > show what the astronauts would see, or anybody else for that matter, IF > they > > were standing on the moon looking at the earth. > > > > Well, we don't have to imagine that such a thing happened, or at least > NASA > > claims that they had people on the moon. Mr. Cernan was there 72 hours. > > > > Would there not be at least one observation from anyone of the earth > > rotating? Relativity or not? > > > > Cheryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:51 PM > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group. > > > > > > > Cheryl, > > > Great web site. So many people are fast asleep from the anaesthetic that > > today's societies feed them. Secular science and religion are a cauldron > of > > theories all mixed together and spoon fed to the public as truth. We can't > > really wake them up. There is no formula. Only God who he has predestined > us > > before the foundation of the world to the knowledge of His son who is the > > only truth which we are led to by the Holy Spirit day by day. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good to have you here. > > > > > > > > > Dan. > > > > > > "Cheryl B." wrote: > > > When I said I was a convert, I meant to geocentrism. I've been a > Christian > > > for over 30 years. (I'm old.) From the beginning I gobbled up > information > > > on creationism. I was able to think for myself enough to refute the > space > > > junkies or anyone who claimed there was life on other planets by > pointing > > > out that Genesis teaches that the sun, moon and stars were not created > > until > > > the fourth day, and looks to me like the stars were put up as > decorations > > > and directional signs to sailors and such and to declare the glory of > God, > > > and what is God going to do with all those people on other planets when > He > > > already had second thoughts about the life he had started on THIS > planet. > > > But I'd hear this stuff all the time from Christians, even those who had > > > been to seminary. > > > > > > Goes to show that sometimes great intelligence is less importance than > > > common sense and knowing the basics of the scriptures (i.e. read > Genesis.) > > > > > > I'm one of those people I think that Marshall Hall describes in his > > website > > > that is a > > > "lover of the truth" - and he does in fact go into that quality quite a > > lot. > > > I had just been thinking about that myself, the scripture about God > > wanting > > > us to be hot or cold rather than lukewarm. It's true that the ones who > are > > > ice cold at least love the truth. It's just that they are committed to a > > > lie but don't know it. It's the ones who don't give a hoot one way or > the > > > other or who think they way they do because it's convenient or because > > > somebody told them it was this way, so why not? -- people who just don't > > > care drive me nuts. > > > > > > I'm friends with prolifers who get out on the streets, go to jail all > the > > > time for what they believe in. They are my friends, and I've been > sharing > > > some of this stuff with them. They are receptive to listening to me. > Why? > > > Because they love truth and are eager to find it wherever or whatever it > > is. > > > > > > Also, as prolifers, activists, we've seen so many lies by the > > > "auathorities" -- the pseudoscience of Planned Parenthood, the > > evolutionists > > > and their phony proofs, the Zero Population Growth and "overpopulation" > > > alarmists, the environmaniacs, the feminists and homo groups, the sex ed > > > people, all the socialists, the medical industry and their lies about > > their > > > awful pills and methods -- after all these groups, these respectable and > > > accepted groups, and having seen they are all liars -- it's easy to take > > > Jesus at his word when he says, Love not the world. > > > > > > So prolifers pretty much do NOT love the world, and we don't believe > much > > if > > > anything that we read or hear from the atheist, liberal, proabort, > > > socialist, communist, evironmaniacal people who worship "science > > so-called." > > > > > > I have been disgusted with NASA for many years, the way they point > > satellite > > > dishes into space to try to pick up communications from the "aliens" > they > > > believe are flourishing out there. > > > > > > I have a website. I try to expose this nonsensical brainwashing to poor, > > > impressionable schoolchildren. It's called www.educratsdictionary.com. > > > > > > It needs to be updated, and I want to get a discussion group going. But > > you > > > can see from it that I saw through NASA awhile ago. (i.e. the site's > been > > > up for five years and I wrote the stuff that's in it maybe eight years > > ago.) > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jack Lewis" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:36 PM > > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group. > > > > > > > > > > Dear Cheryl, > > > > I wrote my other posting to you before I saw this one. It just goes to > > > show > > > > that there are many ways of finding out about God. Presumably you > belong > > > to > > > > some kind of Christian church? How do they respond to your interest in > > > > things of creationism and geocentrism? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jack Lewis > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Cheryl B." > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:34 PM > > > > Subject: [geocentrism] Hello, group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Group. I'm Cheryl that Dr. Neville introduced to you. > > > > > I am a new convert. How did I get converted? I bumped into Marshall > > > > Hall's website. I read it and said, yep, he's probably right. I went > to > > > > NASA's websites looking for pics of the earth turning, figuring > > logically > > > > that they would be the only ones with any proof one way or the other. > I > > > saw > > > > no pics of the earth turning except for one short little "earth > rotation > > > > movie" supposedly taken from Galileo. It did not even claim to be a > > > > timelapse. In fact, there was no information about how this movie was > > > > created at all. My 16-year old who is into graphic arts said it looked > > > like > > > > a simulation to her. Furthermore, I know that Galileo was supposed to > > > have > > > > looped around the earth. > > > > > > > > > > I base my believe not on a great understanding of physics and > science. > > > I > > > > am not a scientist and I have a woman's pea brain when it comes to > > > physicis. > > > > But I have a woman's genius brain when it comes to knowing human > nature > > > and > > > > logic. And I just KNOW that if NASA had proof of the Copernican theory > > > that > > > > it would be PLASTERED all over everywhere -- starting in the preschool > > > texts > > > > and going on up through the graduate texts. They would be using actual > > > > photos to demonstrate the rotation of the earth (not to mention the > > > > so-called orbit of the earth around the sun). These movies and photos > > > would > > > > be labeled as such. There would be quotes from the astronauts, things > > > like, > > > > "I saw the earth in its half-phase, saw the continents slowly > > disappearing > > > > behind the shadow," things like that. Many of them have written books, > > > and > > > > one of them, Cernan, spent 72 hous supposedly on the moon. Who could > > > resist > > > > the temptation to be able to say, "You guys have only imagined the > earth > > > > turning. I h > > > > > ave seen it with my own two eyes." > > > > > > > > > > Well, there are no such quotes from the astaronauts. There are also > no > > > > pictures, except the hokey ones made by Calvin Harrison, the Mormon > > space > > > > junkie that NASA lets do all their pics on their website. Calvin is > not > > a > > > > scientist, his hobby (admitted) is graphic and computer arts, and as a > > > > Mormon his religion already teaches him that there are countless > planets > > > > "out there" populated with live, most of it more intelligent than > ours. > > > As > > > > a Mormon, he expects to have his own planet to populate someday when > he > > > > reaches godhood as he supposes. My sister is a Mormon, and believe me > > she > > > > watches Star Trek as though these programs were documentaries, not > fairy > > > > tales. > > > > > > > > > > Please write back. I have nobody to talk to about this subject. I > have > > > a > > > > lot of questions and a lot of things to share of my own supposings. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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