[geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.

Thanks, Jack.  This is basic science.  You want to prove your theories, your
hypotheses.  And certainly when you have the unique (and costly) opportunity
to do so, you don't "forget."

Cheryl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Lewis" <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.


> Dear Cheryl,
> This is a perfectly reasonable assumption and one that I had never heard
> before. I think this falls into the same category as the astronauts saying
> that they didn't see the stars either.
>
>
> Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:31 PM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
>
>
> > A friend told me the whole moon landing thing was staged in Las Vegas,
> that
> > the film crew all had untimely deaths later, and they were pacified with
> > hookers and parties during hte shoot.
> >
> > If they did go to the moon I'd like to know why not one single astronaut
> has
> > commented about observing the earth turning.  I realize that it takes 12
> > hours for one side of the earth to completely move around, but it would
> > still be apparent to anyone looking that the earth was turning.
> >
> > If you went to the moon and believed the earth was turning, wouldn't you
> > want to brag about having seen it with your own two eyes?
> >
> > Cheryl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan" <danchap9@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:36 AM
> > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
> >
> >
> > > I think the Russians sent an unmanned probe to the moon knowing full
> well
> > about the Van Allen belt would fry any person that went through it. I
saw
> > the video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" that was
posted
> > here a few days ago. That was very good a sealed it for me. There is no
> way
> > that they ever went to the moon. Could be the radiation belt is designed
> by
> > God to keep us here. Fallen man that is. The bible says that one day we
> will
> > meet the lord in the air:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
> with
> > the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
> > Christ shall rise first:
> > >
> > > 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
together
> > with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we
ever
> > be with the Lord.
> > >
> > > 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
> > >
> > > Pre post or a I don't really care you know the big dogmatic debate
about
> > the rapture or as I call it the catching away of the saints.
> > >
> > > Interesting verse maybe that's when our fleshly bodies will burn up in
> the
> > atmosphere and we receive our hevenly bodies.
> > >
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > Dan.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Dan -- This relativity thing-- I just don't get it. There are sites
> which
> > > show what the astronauts would see, or anybody else for that matter,
IF
> > they
> > > were standing on the moon looking at the earth.
> > >
> > > Well, we don't have to imagine that such a thing happened, or at least
> > NASA
> > > claims that they had people on the moon. Mr. Cernan was there 72
hours.
> > >
> > > Would there not be at least one observation from anyone of the earth
> > > rotating? Relativity or not?
> > >
> > > Cheryl
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:51 PM
> > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Cheryl,
> > > > Great web site. So many people are fast asleep from the anaesthetic
> that
> > > today's societies feed them. Secular science and religion are a
cauldron
> > of
> > > theories all mixed together and spoon fed to the public as truth. We
> can't
> > > really wake them up. There is no formula. Only God who he has
> predestined
> > us
> > > before the foundation of the world to the knowledge of His son who is
> the
> > > only truth which we are led to by the Holy Spirit day by day.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good to have you here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dan.
> > > >
> > > > "Cheryl B." wrote:
> > > > When I said I was a convert, I meant to geocentrism. I've been a
> > Christian
> > > > for over 30 years. (I'm old.) From the beginning I gobbled up
> > information
> > > > on creationism. I was able to think for myself enough to refute the
> > space
> > > > junkies or anyone who claimed there was life on other planets by
> > pointing
> > > > out that Genesis teaches that the sun, moon and stars were not
created
> > > until
> > > > the fourth day, and looks to me like the stars were put up as
> > decorations
> > > > and directional signs to sailors and such and to declare the glory
of
> > God,
> > > > and what is God going to do with all those people on other planets
> when
> > He
> > > > already had second thoughts about the life he had started on THIS
> > planet.
> > > > But I'd hear this stuff all the time from Christians, even those who
> had
> > > > been to seminary.
> > > >
> > > > Goes to show that sometimes great intelligence is less importance
than
> > > > common sense and knowing the basics of the scriptures (i.e. read
> > Genesis.)
> > > >
> > > > I'm one of those people I think that Marshall Hall describes in his
> > > website
> > > > that is a
> > > > "lover of the truth" - and he does in fact go into that quality
quite
> a
> > > lot.
> > > > I had just been thinking about that myself, the scripture about God
> > > wanting
> > > > us to be hot or cold rather than lukewarm. It's true that the ones
who
> > are
> > > > ice cold at least love the truth. It's just that they are committed
to
> a
> > > > lie but don't know it. It's the ones who don't give a hoot one way
or
> > the
> > > > other or who think they way they do because it's convenient or
because
> > > > somebody told them it was this way, so why not? -- people who just
> don't
> > > > care drive me nuts.
> > > >
> > > > I'm friends with prolifers who get out on the streets, go to jail
all
> > the
> > > > time for what they believe in. They are my friends, and I've been
> > sharing
> > > > some of this stuff with them. They are receptive to listening to me.
> > Why?
> > > > Because they love truth and are eager to find it wherever or
whatever
> it
> > > is.
> > > >
> > > > Also, as prolifers, activists, we've seen so many lies by the
> > > > "auathorities" -- the pseudoscience of Planned Parenthood, the
> > > evolutionists
> > > > and their phony proofs, the Zero Population Growth and
> "overpopulation"
> > > > alarmists, the environmaniacs, the feminists and homo groups, the
sex
> ed
> > > > people, all the socialists, the medical industry and their lies
about
> > > their
> > > > awful pills and methods -- after all these groups, these respectable
> and
> > > > accepted groups, and having seen they are all liars -- it's easy to
> take
> > > > Jesus at his word when he says, Love not the world.
> > > >
> > > > So prolifers pretty much do NOT love the world, and we don't believe
> > much
> > > if
> > > > anything that we read or hear from the atheist, liberal, proabort,
> > > > socialist, communist, evironmaniacal people who worship "science
> > > so-called."
> > > >
> > > > I have been disgusted with NASA for many years, the way they point
> > > satellite
> > > > dishes into space to try to pick up communications from the "aliens"
> > they
> > > > believe are flourishing out there.
> > > >
> > > > I have a website. I try to expose this nonsensical brainwashing to
> poor,
> > > > impressionable schoolchildren. It's called
www.educratsdictionary.com.
> > > >
> > > > It needs to be updated, and I want to get a discussion group going.
> But
> > > you
> > > > can see from it that I saw through NASA awhile ago. (i.e. the site's
> > been
> > > > up for five years and I wrote the stuff that's in it maybe eight
years
> > > ago.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jack Lewis"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:36 PM
> > > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Cheryl,
> > > > > I wrote my other posting to you before I saw this one. It just
goes
> to
> > > > show
> > > > > that there are many ways of finding out about God. Presumably you
> > belong
> > > > to
> > > > > some kind of Christian church? How do they respond to your
interest
> in
> > > > > things of creationism and geocentrism?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jack Lewis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Cheryl B."
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:34 PM
> > > > > Subject: [geocentrism] Hello, group.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Group. I'm Cheryl that Dr. Neville introduced to you.
> > > > > > I am a new convert. How did I get converted? I bumped into
> Marshall
> > > > > Hall's website. I read it and said, yep, he's probably right. I
went
> > to
> > > > > NASA's websites looking for pics of the earth turning, figuring
> > > logically
> > > > > that they would be the only ones with any proof one way or the
> other.
> > I
> > > > saw
> > > > > no pics of the earth turning except for one short little "earth
> > rotation
> > > > > movie" supposedly taken from Galileo. It did not even claim to be
a
> > > > > timelapse. In fact, there was no information about how this movie
> was
> > > > > created at all. My 16-year old who is into graphic arts said it
> looked
> > > > like
> > > > > a simulation to her. Furthermore, I know that Galileo was supposed
> to
> > > > have
> > > > > looped around the earth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I base my believe not on a great understanding of physics and
> > science.
> > > > I
> > > > > am not a scientist and I have a woman's pea brain when it comes to
> > > > physicis.
> > > > > But I have a woman's genius brain when it comes to knowing human
> > nature
> > > > and
> > > > > logic. And I just KNOW that if NASA had proof of the Copernican
> theory
> > > > that
> > > > > it would be PLASTERED all over everywhere -- starting in the
> preschool
> > > > texts
> > > > > and going on up through the graduate texts. They would be using
> actual
> > > > > photos to demonstrate the rotation of the earth (not to mention
the
> > > > > so-called orbit of the earth around the sun). These movies and
> photos
> > > > would
> > > > > be labeled as such. There would be quotes from the astronauts,
> things
> > > > like,
> > > > > "I saw the earth in its half-phase, saw the continents slowly
> > > disappearing
> > > > > behind the shadow," things like that. Many of them have written
> books,
> > > > and
> > > > > one of them, Cernan, spent 72 hous supposedly on the moon. Who
could
> > > > resist
> > > > > the temptation to be able to say, "You guys have only imagined the
> > earth
> > > > > turning. I h
> > > > > > ave seen it with my own two eyes."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, there are no such quotes from the astaronauts. There are
> also
> > no
> > > > > pictures, except the hokey ones made by Calvin Harrison, the
Mormon
> > > space
> > > > > junkie that NASA lets do all their pics on their website. Calvin
is
> > not
> > > a
> > > > > scientist, his hobby (admitted) is graphic and computer arts, and
as
> a
> > > > > Mormon his religion already teaches him that there are countless
> > planets
> > > > > "out there" populated with live, most of it more intelligent than
> > ours.
> > > > As
> > > > > a Mormon, he expects to have his own planet to populate someday
when
> > he
> > > > > reaches godhood as he supposes. My sister is a Mormon, and believe
> me
> > > she
> > > > > watches Star Trek as though these programs were documentaries, not
> > fairy
> > > > > tales.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please write back. I have nobody to talk to about this subject.
I
> > have
> > > > a
> > > > > lot of questions and a lot of things to share of my own
supposings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks. Cheryl
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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