[geocentrism] Re: Evolution

  • From: j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:59:30 -0700 (PDT)

"I'm sorry to say this post from you is unnecessarily argumentative and 
confrontational. Worse, it includes an accusation that my position on the 
subject of evolution in particular -- and by implication -- science in general, 
can be equated to faith. I deny that now as I have previously, and as a result 
of this, I see nothing to be gained by addressing the remainder of this post.
  Paul D"
   
  Paul, I have re-worded the statement to remove the part you find offensive. I 
personally don't understand why you have a problem calling what you think to be 
true, as faith.
   
  Calling something transitional, does not make it transitional. You are 
assuming it to be transitional because you can imagine how it could be and then 
you turn around and call it evidence to support your contention that evolution 
is true and this contention that evolution is true is what caused you to view 
it as transitional in the first place. Do you not see the circular problem here?
   
  If this makes it easier for you to read and somehow less accusatory, I would 
be happy to rephrase my entire original post.
   
  I realise that matters of faith are not where you want to think that you are. 
You want to be a practical and thoughful person, on a higher path of science, 
evidence, probabilities and practicality. My point to you is that you are not 
free from the things you dislike in others, faith, preconceived notions, 
assumptions, brainwashing, culture, peer pressure, etc.... - No one is free of 
these things, not me, not you, or enyone else here. It seems you have agreed 
with me previously that all people, religious or scientific, are influenced by 
these same faults. I say that evolution is a result of these unsavory 
characteristics, and that you as a man of science and practicallity might want 
to examine whether or not that is true.
   
  JA
  

Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    DIV {   MARGIN: 0px  }        Dear Paul,
  When is an argument merely gainsaying and when is it a spirited discussion?
  Accepting that you do not want to respond to the rest of James' post, how 
about just addressing the comment he made in red?
   
  Jack 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Deema 
  To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:53 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evolution
  

    
    J A 
  From j a Wed Sep 19 14:55:01 2007
    Calling something transitional, does not make it transitional. You are 
assuming it to be transitional because you can imagine how it could be and then 
you turn around and call it evidence to support your faith in evolution and 
this faith is what caused you to view it as transitional in the first place. A 
lovely little circle you've enslaved your mind with.
  I'm sorry to say this post from you is unnecessarily argumentative and 
confrontational. Worse, it includes an accusation that my position on the 
subject of evolution in particular -- and by implication -- science in general, 
can be equated to faith. I deny that now as I have previously, and as a result 
of this, I see nothing to be gained by addressing the remainder of this post.
  Paul D

  


  
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