Dear All, I have just read this article and it is the most damning piece of evidence against the evolution establishment I have come across. What makes it worse is that it is directed at a fellow evolutionist rather than a creationist. Why do they feel it is necessary to be so touchy? Answer: They know they are on very thin ice! A question for Paul. Do you think it is OK for this kind of thing to happen or would you dismiss it as an isolated case or even evolutionists are not perfect? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin G. Selbrede To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:11 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evolution On Sep 19, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Paul Deema wrote: Martin S ...However I am interested in reading his definition of kinds. I guess if I had known of the term 'baraminology' I would most cetainly have typed it int that little box and pressed 'Go'. I will also check those two references you've given and the one involving the Smithsonian if you provide it to me. Paul D Hi Paul, A good place to start is this link concerning the treatment Sternberg received for publishing Dembski back in August 2004: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/klinghoffer200508160826.asp It's noteworthy that the National Center for Science Education's Dr. Eugenie C. Scott insisted that no evolutionary biologist had reviewed the article prior to publication, considering that editor Sternberg holds TWO Ph.D.s in evolutionary biology. Sternberg is the guy who was harassed for publishing Dembski's article. Martin