[GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...
- From: Weymouth <wey6567@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 16:56:43 -0700 (PDT)
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Don't forget about Carlyle Lake in Caryle, Illinois.
It is also a COE (St Louis District) lake. It is
Illinois' largest
manmade lake, with 26,000 acres of water and 13,000
acres of surrounding public land. It contains many
camping sites and is only 50 miles from St Louis.
Jeff
--- Lisa Norris <lnorrismt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> -
> Just a thought here based on insurance for an
> endurance ride that I hold. We also have to have
> the 2 million insurance and all the endurance rides
> are sanctioned by a national organization. I
> realize there isn't a national organization but
> maybe if you contacted other groups holding big
> events (or is that MEGA events) and if they need
> insurance as well, get it as a group. We had a
> local club do that before our national organization
> got it for all rides. Just a thought,
> Lisa
> fourfeld@xxxxxxx wrote:
> -
> Are the state parks and state forests both
> administered by the same agency? Perhaps the forests
> would not have the same insurance requirements as
> the parks. One place that comes to mind is Huzzah
> State Forest in Leasburg. It's got thousands of
> acres of very interesting terrain, and its located
> right across the river from Onondaga State Park
> which has lots of campsites available. It's also
> right next to a pivate campground/canoe rental
> business that has many campsites and even some
> cabins available.
> As a competitor, I might end up regretting
> suggesting this because the terrain at Huzzah is a
> real killer. LOL
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gc-rgs@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 9:05 PM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and
> Concerns...
>
> -
> Michael,
>
> You bring up a lot of good points and some of us
> have briefly talked about
> the same issues. We haven't even had a meeting yet
> to discuss the 2007 event
> and see how we can make improvements. I'm sure Mike
> has been thinking a lot
> about the options.
>
> Over the past 3 years, all of the out of state folks
> said they want it held
> in a different area to see more of the state since
> they have to drive so
> far. That's why the location has been different each
> year.
>
> Another big "gotcha" with state parks is insurance.
> We must provide a $2
> million ins. policy for participant, competing or
> just caching.. The cost is
> about $2000.00 which is prohibitive. We had talked
> about Babler which is
> close to St. Louis but still the ins.problem.
>
> I'm sure Mike will pop in when he gets caught up
> with his thoughts.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Rogers"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:36 PM
> Subject: [GeoStL] MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...
>
>
> > -
> > During the awards ceremony at MOGA this year Mike
> > alluded to MOGA 2008. He said one of the ideas of
> its
> > location could be in St. Louis proper, being held
> at a
> > few parks simultaneously.
> >
> > While in theory, it may be a neat place to have
> it, I
> > have some concerns about a few things:
> >
> > 1. To have MOGA at more than one main location
> could
> > be a logistical nightmare. I haven't been in the
> > planning process for any of these events, granted,
> but
> > trying to set up events and activites in more than
> one
> > park could be a pain.
> >
> > 2. How could we have any park to ourselves for the
> > most part? Forest Park, one of the biggest, has
> the
> > zoo, the Jewel Box, the museum and other
> attractions.
> > I'm not saying an event couldn't be held there,
> for
> > example, but the muggle quotient and gawkers would
> be
> > high.
> >
> > 3. How many caches could you feasibly place in any
> of
> > the parks? I know Forest Park is big and that
> would
> > hold many, but to have enough for events you'd
> have to
> > utilize many parks...not all of which are close
> by.
> > This leads to...
> >
> > 4. If you were to use different parks for caches
> in
> > the events, people should not have to drive to
> other
> > areas as part of the competition. The last thing
> > anyone needs are a bunch of cachers working
> against
> > the clock and facing St. Louis traffic. That could
> be
> > the recipe for accidents, and no one wants that.
> >
> > 5. Many people, including some of our friends from
> > Minnestota, don't like the idea of urban caching
> for
> > MOGA. I'm sure there are a few places with some
> hills
> > in the area, but for the most part, the St. Louis
> area
> > cannot compete with the Mark Twain Lakes, Meramecs
> and
> > Hawns as far as topography. I'm sad to say that
> some
> > people from Minnesota on their message boards and
> even
> > some I spoke to at this past MOGA personally have
> > questioned whether they'd even attend an "urban"
> MOGA.
> >
> > 6. Costs. I am not sure about camping facilities
> in
> > the St. Louis area, but hotels there are not
> nearly as
> > cheap as what we had at this past MOGA. This could
> > turn some away. Some prefer camping to hotels
> > anyway...I don't know how this could or would play
> > out.
> >
> > That's about enough of the concerns...so how about
> > some ideas?
> >
> > 1. Why not have the next MOGA in a previously-used
> > spot? Meramec is a beautiful place and so is
> Hawn...is
> > there something against using an old area in lieu
> of a
> > new area?
> >
> > 2. Have you thought of using an area in the
> Ozarks?
> > Lake of the Ozarks? Or, perhaps, in the St.
> Francois
> > area in Sam A. Baker State park?
> >
> > 3. Perhaps a poll could be set up to vote on
> > locations...
> >
> > Well, I have more ideas, but I am having writer's
> > block so I might post more later. I just wanted to
> > shoot this out to y'all.
> >
> > Thanks again for a great MOGA 2007!
> >
> > -Michael
> >
> >
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