[GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...

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Actually they can... All they have to do is sponsor the event. The insurance 
falls within their court... We can't get them to donate facilities, I don't 
know how we would ever expect them to sponsor the event.

Mike

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Subject: [GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...


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They can't just waive the insurance requirements because it is state law.

Tim

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Well, if it was THAT attractive to the state parks, then they should offer
towaive the insurance.

M. Bollinger wrote: - I have to agree with Mike on seeing who offers the
bestdeal. MOGA is a big event for these small communities. They can gain a
LOT by having the event in their area. I've been involved with many
conferences and conventions and many places will pay money to the
organization to have it held at their location. We're probably not there
justyet, but it would be interesting to have several locations 'bid' on
having MOGA come to their town. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike
Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>[1] To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2] Sent:
Sunday,April 1, 2007 9:22:45 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and
Concerns... - Heck, we could throw the first cache in trhe middle of a big
olmud hole for the ladies event and it would quickly turn into a spectator
sport. :-) We will most likely have a ladies competition next year. I heard
from several that they would like to break it out. As far as location, We
will have to see who offers the best deal. Free camping for staff, 1/2 price
for participants, free facilities, etc... Mike Tired of Spam?? Here's your
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Guy, from Galaxy Quest... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah
Chisholm"<sarah_cf30@xxxxxxxxx>[4] To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[5] Sent:
Friday, March 30, 2007 11:00 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and
Concerns... - IMHO, MOGA wouldn't feel like MOGA if it were set in an urban
setting. I'm not against a road rally geocaching event - far from it, it
sounds like it would be a hoot! - but it just wouldn't be MOGA. I'd love
going back to MTL and loading up the south side of the lake with caches next
year. And, if there is a Ladies Division in the Individual Course, I might
even compete. I think that a lot of the ladies do not compete because they
know that they have NO chance against some of the geocaching machines that
compete in the event. Ladies against ladies would bring out more lady
competitors. Just MY 2 cents worth :-) Sarah ----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Rogers <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[6] To:
geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[7] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:36:57 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns... - During the awards
ceremony at MOGA this year Mike alluded to MOGA 2008. He said one of the
ideas of its location could be in St. Louis proper, being held at a few
parkssimultaneously. While in theory, it may be a neat place to have it, I
have some concerns about a few things: 1. To have MOGA at more than one main
location could be a logistical nightmare. I haven't been in the planning
process for any of these events, granted, but trying to set up events and
activites in more than one park could be a pain. 2. How could we have any
park to ourselves for the most part? Forest Park, one of the biggest, has
thezoo, the Jewel Box, the museum and other attractions. I'm not saying an
event couldn't be held there, for example, but the muggle quotient and
gawkers would be high. 3. How many caches could you feasibly place in any of
the parks? I know Forest Park is big and that would hold many, but to have
enough for events you'd have to utilize many parks...not all of which are
close by. This leads to... 4. If you were to use different parks for caches
in the events, people should not have to drive to other areas as part of the
competition. The last thing anyone needs are a bunch of cachers working
against the clock and facing St. Louis traffic. That could be the recipe for
accidents, and no one wants that. 5. Many people, including some of our
friends from Minnestota, don't like the idea of urban caching for MOGA. I'm
sure there are a few places with some hills in the area, but for the most
part, the St. Louis area cannot compete with the Mark Twain Lakes, Meramecs
and Hawns as far as topography. I'm sad to say that some people from
Minnesota on their message boards and even some I spoke to at this past MOGA
personally have questioned whether they'd even attend an "urban" MOGA. 6.
Costs. I am not sure about camping facilities in the St. Louis area, but
hotels there are not nearly as cheap as what we had at this past MOGA. This
could turn some away. Some prefer camping to hotels anyway...I don't know
howthis could or would play out. That's about enough of the concerns...so
howabout some ideas? 1. Why not have the next MOGA in a previously-used
spot?Meramec is a beautiful place and so is Hawn...is there something
againstusing an old area in lieu of a new area? 2. Have you thought of using
an area in the Ozarks? Lake of the Ozarks? Or, perhaps, in the St. Francois
area in Sam A. Baker State park? 3. Perhaps a poll could be set up to vote
onlocations... Well, I have more ideas, but I am having writer's block so I
might post more later. I just wanted to shoot this out to y'all. Thanks
againfor a great MOGA 2007! -Michael
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