[GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...
- From: Michael Rogers <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
-
Rich...
I fully understand that state parks would probably be
a hassle due to the insurance matters. As I said, I
have never planned or helped plan one of these events,
so i am clueless about that aspect of it.
I guess my biggest concerns were the main ones I
outlined in my OP...safety concerns, costs and a
possible dip in atendance due to urban settings.
Thanks to both you and Jen for your input.
Just a concerned cacher on the frontier os SLAGA
territory,
-Michael
--- GC-RGS <gc-rgs@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> -
> Michael,
>
> You bring up a lot of good points and some of us
> have briefly talked about
> the same issues. We haven't even had a meeting yet
> to discuss the 2007 event
> and see how we can make improvements. I'm sure Mike
> has been thinking a lot
> about the options.
>
> Over the past 3 years, all of the out of state folks
> said they want it held
> in a different area to see more of the state since
> they have to drive so
> far. That's why the location has been different each
> year.
>
> Another big "gotcha" with state parks is insurance.
> We must provide a $2
> million ins. policy for participant, competing or
> just caching.. The cost is
> about $2000.00 which is prohibitive. We had talked
> about Babler which is
> close to St. Louis but still the ins.problem.
>
> I'm sure Mike will pop in when he gets caught up
> with his thoughts.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Rogers" <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:36 PM
> Subject: [GeoStL] MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...
>
>
> > -
> > During the awards ceremony at MOGA this year Mike
> > alluded to MOGA 2008. He said one of the ideas of
> its
> > location could be in St. Louis proper, being held
> at a
> > few parks simultaneously.
> >
> > While in theory, it may be a neat place to have
> it, I
> > have some concerns about a few things:
> >
> > 1. To have MOGA at more than one main location
> could
> > be a logistical nightmare. I haven't been in the
> > planning process for any of these events, granted,
> but
> > trying to set up events and activites in more than
> one
> > park could be a pain.
> >
> > 2. How could we have any park to ourselves for the
> > most part? Forest Park, one of the biggest, has
> the
> > zoo, the Jewel Box, the museum and other
> attractions.
> > I'm not saying an event couldn't be held there,
> for
> > example, but the muggle quotient and gawkers would
> be
> > high.
> >
> > 3. How many caches could you feasibly place in any
> of
> > the parks? I know Forest Park is big and that
> would
> > hold many, but to have enough for events you'd
> have to
> > utilize many parks...not all of which are close
> by.
> > This leads to...
> >
> > 4. If you were to use different parks for caches
> in
> > the events, people should not have to drive to
> other
> > areas as part of the competition. The last thing
> > anyone needs are a bunch of cachers working
> against
> > the clock and facing St. Louis traffic. That could
> be
> > the recipe for accidents, and no one wants that.
> >
> > 5. Many people, including some of our friends from
> > Minnestota, don't like the idea of urban caching
> for
> > MOGA. I'm sure there are a few places with some
> hills
> > in the area, but for the most part, the St. Louis
> area
> > cannot compete with the Mark Twain Lakes, Meramecs
> and
> > Hawns as far as topography. I'm sad to say that
> some
> > people from Minnesota on their message boards and
> even
> > some I spoke to at this past MOGA personally have
> > questioned whether they'd even attend an "urban"
> MOGA.
> >
> > 6. Costs. I am not sure about camping facilities
> in
> > the St. Louis area, but hotels there are not
> nearly as
> > cheap as what we had at this past MOGA. This could
> > turn some away. Some prefer camping to hotels
> > anyway...I don't know how this could or would play
> > out.
> >
> > That's about enough of the concerns...so how about
> > some ideas?
> >
> > 1. Why not have the next MOGA in a previously-used
> > spot? Meramec is a beautiful place and so is
> Hawn...is
> > there something against using an old area in lieu
> of a
> > new area?
> >
> > 2. Have you thought of using an area in the
> Ozarks?
> > Lake of the Ozarks? Or, perhaps, in the St.
> Francois
> > area in Sam A. Baker State park?
> >
> > 3. Perhaps a poll could be set up to vote on
> > locations...
> >
> > Well, I have more ideas, but I am having writer's
> > block so I might post more later. I just wanted to
> > shoot this out to y'all.
> >
> > Thanks again for a great MOGA 2007!
> >
> > -Michael
> >
> >
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