The nice thing for Windows users is that, I'm pretty sure the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) that you download and run from Sun's website is NOT developed by Microsoft. I'm almost certain that it's made and maintained by Sun, as I think MS dropped all Java development after their lawsuit from Sun. I run Java on my Windows box at home, and things run fine for it. I've run several of the JOGL demos, and they run just swimmingly. ^_^ There was even a nifty Quake 3 demo running around somewhere that somebody wrote in Java which loaded a level and you could run around shooting each other. Sure it wasn't EXACTLY quake, but it was fun. Last I checked, Java3D was labeled as a very intuitive, nice interface for 3D rendering, but still a little impractical for games purposes, since you just send it objects to render in a hierarchy, and tell it kind of what rules to render with, and it does that all on its own, making it very difficult to use speed-enhancing techniques like visibility culling, etc... I bet it could still be done. JOGL is my personal recommendation, but that's what I'm working with, so take it with a grain of salt. ^_^ Good luck, and if you have any questions, let me know! Actually, somewhere I wrote some tutorial-commented code for JOGL projects, on how to get them running... I should resurrect that and put it up on the Wiki! --Scott On 08 Mar, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Jason Clark wrote: > So it sounds like Java might be capable of giving me the tools I need = > for some rapid development provided I do a bit more research into some > = > of the newer libraries and some experimentation. > My concern is the windows support. If M$ has made a point of hindering > = > Java's success, then will the actual performance for a windows user > (my = > target market) be worth the time? I guess only experimentation will = > tell. > Several people have mentioned Java 3D and game libraries. I will start > = > googling the heck out of that, but if you have any experience or = > pointers, I'd be very grateful. > Thanks, > Jason. --------------------- To unsubscribe go to http://gameprogrammer.com/mailinglist.html