So it sounds like Java might be capable of giving me the tools I need = for some rapid development provided I do a bit more research into some = of the newer libraries and some experimentation. My concern is the windows support. If M$ has made a point of hindering = Java's success, then will the actual performance for a windows user (my = target market) be worth the time? I guess only experimentation will = tell. Several people have mentioned Java 3D and game libraries. I will start = googling the heck out of that, but if you have any experience or = pointers, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Jason. > -----Original Message----- > From: gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob=20 > Pendleton > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:45 AM > To: Gameprogrammer Mailing List > Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: Fast development over multiple=20 > platforms,which language? >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 16:16 +0200, Szasz Pal wrote: > > > the problem > > > is the lack of cross platform libraries like java, which are ( i=20 > > > think ), it's greatest strength. > > I think it;s quite the opposite. C/C++ has too many cross platofrm > > libraries, so few people use these, otheres those, etc. > > On the other hand Sun decides what to put in the standard=20 > java, so there=20 > > is only one library, so everybody ahs to use that one. > >=20 > > I still prefer to have a choice in cross platform=20 > libraries. Because, > > for example if I need a GUI for an application, for complex=20 > app I would=20 > > use QT, for simple app FLTK, for games maybe paragui+sdl.=20 > While with=20 > > java you have to stick with awt/swing. > >=20 >=20 > I have to agree with you on that. Sun is Java's worst enemy. Sun needs > to open up the specification and allow, even encourage, people to > develop libraries that compete with Sun's libraries. >=20 > Bob Pendleton >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------- > To unsubscribe go to http://gameprogrammer.com/mailinglist.html >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.857 / Virus Database: 584 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 > =20 >=20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.857 / Virus Database: 584 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 =20 --------------------- To unsubscribe go to http://gameprogrammer.com/mailinglist.html