Corey, You should know by now that there's no silver bullet. And there's no easy way out. (But then again I'm toughened by having to work with SAP before. I/A is a piece of cake compare to that monstrous system.) But funny you should mention running d_edit on the detail displays and faceplates on every upgrade. That's what I resigned myself to a long time ago. Now I have a script file (with double stern warnings of "do you want to do this?" and "do you really want to do this?") to run a series of dozens of d_edit commands on the various faceplates and detail displays, mainly to change access class for various picks on those graphics. Brute force, but effective. Duc -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corey R Clingo Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:14 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] "protect name .PARM" DM/FV command True. This mechanism is not foolproof, even if it had worked as I=20 envisioned/desired. But it would eliminate 90-95% of the issues, and=20 prevent all that typing of loopback connections in situations where=20 changes were not desired, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if they=20 happened. I was just salivating for a moment or two at the prospect of=20 several lines of "protect name .DONTTOUCHTHIS" lines in an environment=20 script to protect a desired list of parameters, rather than a combination=20 of locking them, having some enforcer application set them back when they=20 changed (for all those settable/non-connectable ones), or d_edit'ing all the faceplates and details to control access via protection classes - on every system upgrade (but then again I'm toying with the idea of making my=20 own, as I find the system-supplied ones lacking in several areas, so maybe=20 that last one is not such a big deal). Corey Clingo BASF Corporation _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave