[floss-cec] Re: Our latest plan...

  • From: "Shiv Shankar" <sshankarp@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: floss-cec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:05:52 +0530

" Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it
merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first
of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them --
and then, the opportunity to choose "

Wonderful quote ....
Githin - read it !!!

On 9/24/06, Amal Krishnan <alterk0de@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



okay ... if the dark clouds of freedom delusions still hinder ur thinking process and if this goes into implementation, make sure that u do the same to Devassya's (His Holiness) laptop. Let him too know what its like to be Free ....


" Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. " C.Wright Mills

On 9/24/06, Githin Alapatt <githin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> You guys dont have to interfere with the blocking orkut and p2p things,
> its not the FLOSS cell that does it. its the college senate.
>
> Installing GNU/Linux is not a popularity contest.
>
>
> On 9/23/06, Shiv Shankar <sshankarp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > i love linux too ... but i dont want people to say "yuck! this lab
> > runs linux systems" ..
> >
> > dont follow what others do ... if mec'ians and nitc'ians eat shit .. u
> > xpect cec'ians to eat shit ???
> >
> > the labs in cet runs windows - orkut and p2p's are blocked there ...
> > in nitc they didnt block orkut, they only blocked the use of messengers ...
> >
> > know things b4 u write them ....
> >
> > On 9/23/06, Amal Krishnan < alterk0de@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Heya !
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting  ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > NOTHING DOING. There will be only a GNU/Linux system there. We will
> > > have dual boot, but it will be locked up for any special use,,like you 
need
> > > to connect a scanner or something.
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > Thanks ... atleast u agree that u need windows to do all those
> > > special things !!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting   ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > I don't think its a difficult thing to just open up FIrefox and surf
> > > and save the necessary data on to a thumb drive. We are also making a page
> > > that will tell any idiot how to go about doing common things
> > >   ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > Thats kind ! ..... Well .. i request the We* to do something for
> > > college site first ! ... And
> > > better train all those staffs too !
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting   ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > We have to force people in to this kind of a thing, coz else we will
> > > not have any control on the p2p softwares.
> > >
> > >   ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > Check out !
> > >
> > > http://www.surfcontrol.com/
> > >
> > > There's lots more ....
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting   ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > MEC has full GNU/Linux there, so does NIT C. I think if they can
> > > cope up, CEC also can
> > >
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > > ------------------------- -------------------------
> > >
> > > We shouldn't be imitating mec or any other college.Both windows and
> > > linux are great Os'Z and a professional should have good skills in them
> > > both. Free software isn't all about
> > > Linux ! ... So do some other things to promote free s/w like making
> > > some good free software for instance !! ...
> > >
> > >
> > >                          To conclude, i'd like to take an analogy.
> > > Replacing all the European closets in our college with Indian ones won't 
do
> > > anything to promote Indian Ways ! ..
> > > As i said previously, freedom is abt having the right to make
> > > choices ! ...  DUAL BOOT !
> > > Also, this is not a flame ! ... just expressing my opinions ...
> > > Don't u love Free As in Free
> > > Speech ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/22/06, Githin Alapatt <githin@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > NOTHING DOING. There will be only a GNU/Linux system there. We
> > > > will have dual boot, but it will be locked up for any special use,,like 
you
> > > > need to connect a scanner or something.
> > > >
> > > > Thumb drives do open up on GNU/Linux also.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think its a difficult thing to just open up FIrefox and
> > > > surf and save the necessary data on to a thumb drive. We are also 
making a
> > > > page that will tell any idiot how to go about doing common things.
> > > >
> > > > We have to force people in to this kind of a thing, coz else we
> > > > will not have any control on the p2p softwares. And also, we have plans 
to
> > > > block the use of sites like orkut etc. This is not as a part of the 
FLOSS
> > > > cell but as the college senate as I have received complaints telling 
that
> > > > people are wasting simply using orkut and sitting when other students 
have
> > > > work to do.
> > > >
> > > > MEC has full GNU/Linux there, so does NIT C. I think if they can
> > > > cope up, CEC also can.
> > > >
> > > > On 9/22/06, Shiv Shankar < sshankarp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What about people who dont know linux ??? U think ur thumb drive
> > > > > will get mounted up as u plug it in ??? And dual boot does works but 
u think
> > > > > it would be nice if some 1 want s to reboot their machine as they 
dont like
> > > > > that OS ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/22/06, Amal Krishnan < alterk0de@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whoa yeah ... almost 4got ... Don't make fsug look like some
> > > > > > kind of "radical" group  forcing  people into using linux ...   Its 
going to
> > > > > > give a bad image to the group ....  and yeah , a dual boot would be 
good !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/22/06, Amal Krishnan < alterk0de@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > lol  ......... how abt a dual boot folks ??? ..... Freedom
> > > > > > > is abt having the right to make choices , not being forced into 
something
> > > > > > > .... thats called *Fascism.  **
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/22/06, Stephen Thomas <steeve102000@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Its a good idea,but dont run into problems straight away.Ihope 
a step by step transition would make the matter easier rather than a
> > > > > > > > sudden change, that may cause an outrage among
> > > > > > > > students.Say 8-10 systems installed with linux and the
> > > > > > > > rest may run Windows.
> > > > > > > > Also you must be ready to give some training session for
> > > > > > > > the staffs and students and also be prepared to give a full 
time assistance
> > > > > > > > till the new Operating system suceeds.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >       And i think no one presently have the courage to do
> > > > > > > > what you suggest  so if you drop this idea now this wont happen 
in CEC for
> > > > > > > > another decade (i suppose).
> > > > > > > > Expect my full support!
> > > > > > > > Long live Penguin!!
> > > > > > > > Stephen.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Githin Alapatt < githin@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What crisis management? How does that happen at other
> > > > > > > > institutions?
> > > > > > > > Our purpose is not just to remove viruses and p2p, its
> > > > > > > > also make
> > > > > > > > GNU/Linux popular! Remember that!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 9/22/06, Shiv Shankar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > people will kill u if u do that ... crisis management is
> > > > > > > > much more difficult
> > > > > > > > > in Linux than windows ... u can also control p2p
> > > > > > > > softwares in windows and
> > > > > > > > > also keep viruses and spyware out ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 9/22/06, Githin Alapatt wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Githin F Alapatt
> > > > > > > > > > Student Coordinator
> > > > > > > > > > FLOSS Cell, C.E.C.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The Principal
> > > > > > > > > > C.E.C.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 22 September, 2006
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,
> > > > > > > > > > Sub: Permission to install GNU/Linux.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you visit the Computer Hardware Maintenance Lab
> > > > > > > > that is now used as
> > > > > > > > > > the Internet lab, you can find that most of the
> > > > > > > > computers are infected
> > > > > > > > > > with viruses. This virus disables copying and pasting
> > > > > > > > functions when
> > > > > > > > > > microsoft windows is running. Many students are
> > > > > > > > wasting precious
> > > > > > > > > > bandwidth by running p2p software and downloading
> > > > > > > > songs, movies,
> > > > > > > > > > cracked games etc.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The members of the FLOSS cell are interested in
> > > > > > > > installing GNU/Linux
> > > > > > > > > > on these machines. Normally, viruses don't infect
> > > > > > > > GNU/Linux systems
> > > > > > > > > > and the staff can effectively control the use of p2p
> > > > > > > > software on these
> > > > > > > > > > machines. Once installed, students can easily access
> > > > > > > > the Internet and
> > > > > > > > > > keep viruses and spy ware out. Most of the well known
> > > > > > > > colleges have
> > > > > > > > > > only GNU/Linux machines in their Internet centres.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hence I would request you to grant me permission with
> > > > > > > > go ahead with
> > > > > > > > > > the installation process on September 30th, Saturday.
> > > > > > > > The FLOSS
> > > > > > > > > > members would do the installation and the other
> > > > > > > > students who are
> > > > > > > > > > interested can watch and study the installation
> > > > > > > > procedure.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yours Obediently
> > > > > > > > > > Githin F Alapatt
> > > > > > > > > > Student Coordinator
> > > > > > > > > > FLOSS Cell
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