As I see it.......... they are corralling us to do just what they want. Smokey Mt Frank In a message dated 11/29/2012 11:29:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, johncgg@xxxxxxxxx writes: I hate Cable/tv companies. I fought with Comcast constantly till I got AT&T in our area. The TV is better, the internet is a lot slower. I am just tired of fighting it every 3 to 6 months to "negotiate" a better deal all the time. Like you say, they give you something, then they charge you for it later, or after a trial period. I wish I had cable internet and AT&T TV, but it would cost too much. JC On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Chris Lindh <_chris@partsforspeed.com_ (mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: This is the speed test: _http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/_ (http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/) Charter cable has the worst customer ratings (59%) in the worst industry (TV service): _http://www.theacsi.org/acsi-results/acsi-commentary-may-2012_ (http://www.theacsi.org/acsi-results/acsi-commentary-may-2012) Comcast isn't much better at 61%, in years past Comcast has had lower ratings than the IRS. The IRS! They've even changed the name of their product to "Xfinity" since Comcast has such a poor reputation. Problem is Comcast is the only cable company in my area. Utilities are a necessary evil, but I fight them every chance I get, I know the customer service rep can't hang up, so I just stay on the phone hammering them until they provide a reasonable solution. One victory is I'm down to only one service from AT&T (cell). I use Ooma for phone, which is ~$4 a month. I just called Comcast about my bill, a few months ago they "gave" me a premium channel since I complained about their myriad problems, then proceeded to charge me for the channel once the free period was up. They were also charging me for a "Channel Guide" magazine (that we were not reading, just recycling). There's $3.95/month for something I never asked for. I was able to get $20 out of them for their M-cards not working... better than nothing.