[duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup

  • From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:10:24 -0800

Thanks for the feedback.

I am basing my assertion on a single case, which makes it flimsy as h**l,
but as it has more to do with the UEB Linguistics list, and as I gave the
basis for my assertion the phone number and told her you'd throw a life
line, if she doesn't call you it serves her right.

Sorry for straying away from the list.

Jack

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:15 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup


> Hi Jack,
>
> "computer expertise appears to be lower among students in
> the U.K."
>
> I'd like to know what you base THAT statement on?
>
> But that said, a student may be told that they can emboss
> their work to ABC embosser, which may be close by, or even a
> million miles away.
>
> In fact, they often don't actually want to emboss their work
> at that time, just prepare it for their chosen embosser -
> which could even be on the network in their halls of
> residence.  (And I have many cases of that requirement)
>
> George.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
> Maartman
> Sent: 17 March 2005 22:52
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup
>
> Hi George:
>
> I think the argument against is weaker than the argument
> for:
>
> Setting up a configuration can be inconvenient, but once set
> up, as long as it isn't fiddled with by an administrator,
> things ought to translate and emboss correctly.  The North
> American "Office for students with disabilities", or its
> congener is supposed to know how to do this for students who
> don't.  Regrettably, and you can contest this, computer
> expertise appears to be lower among students in the U.K.
>
> DBT differs slightly from OS to OS, but assuming we are
> talking about networks here, that shouldn't matter.
> However, I wonder if there is generally one embosser per
> station, whether global and document embosser settings might
> not be redundant.  But conceivably you might have a student
> with two embossers, a braille Blazer for her class-room
> notes, and something interpoint like a Juliet pro, for
> text-book Chapters that may include graphics.  I loved the
> good old days in the prehistory of the 90s when I worked
> under dos, and used a versapoint that sounded like a road
> drill, I scanned and brailled all my own textbooks, then and
> of course it took up so much time, that with my pressing
> commitments in the student pub, I certainly wasn't
> reasonably expected to study.  But in all sincerity if
> something goes wrong and the student can't handle the
> configuration, nothing gets printed and there's nothing to
> study.
>
> I hear Jan's frustration, working to deadline, with material
> that needs custom formatting, no doubt APH having state of
> the art everything.
>
> Since MSW supports legions of printers, one could expect the
> embosser issue to be just as simple.  For many cogent
> reasons it isn't.  What would happen if document embosser
> settings were considered optional, or what advantages to
> they have over global settings allowing one to change
> embossers on the fly?
>
> Just Curious
>
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:21 PM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Question 99 - Embosser Setup
>
>
> > OK.  This is a hairy one, but I feel strongly enough to
> > throw the question out to all of you.
> >
> > If you have multiple users of DBT, and/or more than one
> > embosser in use, please bear with me and read on.
> >
> > Some background:
> >
> > You all know I'm a Duxbury dealer, and one who is perhaps
> > slightly more passionate about DBT than normal.  (If that
> > makes me an eccentric, so be it - smile!)  However, I'll
> try
> > to make my point in simplish terms.
> >
> > The current concept:
> >
> > At the moment, DBT's Embosser setup is set up in such a
> way
> > that it applies to the entire PC.  One for all, and all
> for
> > one.
> >
> > For a single user, or even for a family, using one PC with
> > different passwords, one embosser and one size of paper in
> > that embosser, that's probably fine.
> >
> > My problem: (Even if it is only a British issue)
> >
> > Many of my users are schools, colleges and universities,
> or
> > major charities with dozens of work stations on a network.
> >
> > They often have two or more braille embossers.
> >
> > Moreover, they have many members of staff who will
> > specifically not always use the same work station or
> > embosser.
> >
> > However, each member of staff and indeed each student,
> will
> > have what is called a "Roving Profile".  In short, when
> they
> > log on to ANY workstation, enter their Username and
> > Password, they will have all their personal settings
> > available to them.
> >
> > Those of you who have JAWS 6 installed on a system where
> you
> > have different users set up will appreciate what this
> means.
> >
> >
> > So your wife, husband, child, or friend can log in with
> > their Username and Password, and any changes they have
> made
> > will be retained for them exclusively.
> >
> > The question:
> >
> > Should DBT's complete settings follow suite?  And
> > specifically including embosser settings?
> >
> > More background - and example:
> >
> > Student "A" normally uses a Braille Blazer - 34 cells by
> 25
> > lines.  But student "B" prefers 32 cells by 25 lines.
> They
> > can use any of 20-30 different PC's in the Library, or
> maybe
> > even the same PC.
> >
> > So we are back to the question of embosser settings per
> > machine (PC) or per user.
> >
> > Argument against per user:
> >
> > It means that each user, of which there could be dozens,
> has
> > to set up their own configurations.  Lots of work.
> >
> > Argument for per user:
> >
> > - No more conflict with embosser settings.
> >
> > - Is in keeping with general Windows "Roving Profile"
> > principles.
> >
> > O.K.  I'll duck below the wire for now.
> >
> > George.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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