Thanks for the feedback. I am basing my assertion on a single case, which makes it flimsy as h**l, but as it has more to do with the UEB Linguistics list, and as I gave the basis for my assertion the phone number and told her you'd throw a life line, if she doesn't call you it serves her right. Sorry for straying away from the list. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup > Hi Jack, > > "computer expertise appears to be lower among students in > the U.K." > > I'd like to know what you base THAT statement on? > > But that said, a student may be told that they can emboss > their work to ABC embosser, which may be close by, or even a > million miles away. > > In fact, they often don't actually want to emboss their work > at that time, just prepare it for their chosen embosser - > which could even be on the network in their halls of > residence. (And I have many cases of that requirement) > > George. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack > Maartman > Sent: 17 March 2005 22:52 > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup > > Hi George: > > I think the argument against is weaker than the argument > for: > > Setting up a configuration can be inconvenient, but once set > up, as long as it isn't fiddled with by an administrator, > things ought to translate and emboss correctly. The North > American "Office for students with disabilities", or its > congener is supposed to know how to do this for students who > don't. Regrettably, and you can contest this, computer > expertise appears to be lower among students in the U.K. > > DBT differs slightly from OS to OS, but assuming we are > talking about networks here, that shouldn't matter. > However, I wonder if there is generally one embosser per > station, whether global and document embosser settings might > not be redundant. But conceivably you might have a student > with two embossers, a braille Blazer for her class-room > notes, and something interpoint like a Juliet pro, for > text-book Chapters that may include graphics. I loved the > good old days in the prehistory of the 90s when I worked > under dos, and used a versapoint that sounded like a road > drill, I scanned and brailled all my own textbooks, then and > of course it took up so much time, that with my pressing > commitments in the student pub, I certainly wasn't > reasonably expected to study. But in all sincerity if > something goes wrong and the student can't handle the > configuration, nothing gets printed and there's nothing to > study. > > I hear Jan's frustration, working to deadline, with material > that needs custom formatting, no doubt APH having state of > the art everything. > > Since MSW supports legions of printers, one could expect the > embosser issue to be just as simple. For many cogent > reasons it isn't. What would happen if document embosser > settings were considered optional, or what advantages to > they have over global settings allowing one to change > embossers on the fly? > > Just Curious > > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:21 PM > Subject: [duxhelp] Question 99 - Embosser Setup > > > > OK. This is a hairy one, but I feel strongly enough to > > throw the question out to all of you. > > > > If you have multiple users of DBT, and/or more than one > > embosser in use, please bear with me and read on. > > > > Some background: > > > > You all know I'm a Duxbury dealer, and one who is perhaps > > slightly more passionate about DBT than normal. (If that > > makes me an eccentric, so be it - smile!) However, I'll > try > > to make my point in simplish terms. > > > > The current concept: > > > > At the moment, DBT's Embosser setup is set up in such a > way > > that it applies to the entire PC. One for all, and all > for > > one. > > > > For a single user, or even for a family, using one PC with > > different passwords, one embosser and one size of paper in > > that embosser, that's probably fine. > > > > My problem: (Even if it is only a British issue) > > > > Many of my users are schools, colleges and universities, > or > > major charities with dozens of work stations on a network. > > > > They often have two or more braille embossers. > > > > Moreover, they have many members of staff who will > > specifically not always use the same work station or > > embosser. > > > > However, each member of staff and indeed each student, > will > > have what is called a "Roving Profile". In short, when > they > > log on to ANY workstation, enter their Username and > > Password, they will have all their personal settings > > available to them. > > > > Those of you who have JAWS 6 installed on a system where > you > > have different users set up will appreciate what this > means. > > > > > > So your wife, husband, child, or friend can log in with > > their Username and Password, and any changes they have > made > > will be retained for them exclusively. > > > > The question: > > > > Should DBT's complete settings follow suite? And > > specifically including embosser settings? > > > > More background - and example: > > > > Student "A" normally uses a Braille Blazer - 34 cells by > 25 > > lines. But student "B" prefers 32 cells by 25 lines. > They > > can use any of 20-30 different PC's in the Library, or > maybe > > even the same PC. > > > > So we are back to the question of embosser settings per > > machine (PC) or per user. > > > > Argument against per user: > > > > It means that each user, of which there could be dozens, > has > > to set up their own configurations. Lots of work. > > > > Argument for per user: > > > > - No more conflict with embosser settings. > > > > - Is in keeping with general Windows "Roving Profile" > > principles. > > > > O.K. I'll duck below the wire for now. > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee > Groupshield. > > * * * > > * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > > * unsubscribe > > * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. 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