[duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup
- From: Dave Durber <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:46:41 -0500
Hello Jack:
You! being a Canadian! should know, that you never step out on to a
frozen pond without first making sure that the ice is thick enough to
support you weight.
sincerely:
Dave durber
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:10:24 -0800, you wrote:
>Thanks for the feedback.
>
>I am basing my assertion on a single case, which makes it flimsy as h**l,
>but as it has more to do with the UEB Linguistics list, and as I gave the
>basis for my assertion the phone number and told her you'd throw a life
>line, if she doesn't call you it serves her right.
>
>Sorry for straying away from the list.
>
>Jack
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:15 PM
>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup
>
>
>> Hi Jack,
>>
>> "computer expertise appears to be lower among students in
>> the U.K."
>>
>> I'd like to know what you base THAT statement on?
>>
>> But that said, a student may be told that they can emboss
>> their work to ABC embosser, which may be close by, or even a
>> million miles away.
>>
>> In fact, they often don't actually want to emboss their work
>> at that time, just prepare it for their chosen embosser -
>> which could even be on the network in their halls of
>> residence. (And I have many cases of that requirement)
>>
>> George.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
>> Maartman
>> Sent: 17 March 2005 22:52
>> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Question 99 - Embosser Setup
>>
>> Hi George:
>>
>> I think the argument against is weaker than the argument
>> for:
>>
>> Setting up a configuration can be inconvenient, but once set
>> up, as long as it isn't fiddled with by an administrator,
>> things ought to translate and emboss correctly. The North
>> American "Office for students with disabilities", or its
>> congener is supposed to know how to do this for students who
>> don't. Regrettably, and you can contest this, computer
>> expertise appears to be lower among students in the U.K.
>>
>> DBT differs slightly from OS to OS, but assuming we are
>> talking about networks here, that shouldn't matter.
>> However, I wonder if there is generally one embosser per
>> station, whether global and document embosser settings might
>> not be redundant. But conceivably you might have a student
>> with two embossers, a braille Blazer for her class-room
>> notes, and something interpoint like a Juliet pro, for
>> text-book Chapters that may include graphics. I loved the
>> good old days in the prehistory of the 90s when I worked
>> under dos, and used a versapoint that sounded like a road
>> drill, I scanned and brailled all my own textbooks, then and
>> of course it took up so much time, that with my pressing
>> commitments in the student pub, I certainly wasn't
>> reasonably expected to study. But in all sincerity if
>> something goes wrong and the student can't handle the
>> configuration, nothing gets printed and there's nothing to
>> study.
>>
>> I hear Jan's frustration, working to deadline, with material
>> that needs custom formatting, no doubt APH having state of
>> the art everything.
>>
>> Since MSW supports legions of printers, one could expect the
>> embosser issue to be just as simple. For many cogent
>> reasons it isn't. What would happen if document embosser
>> settings were considered optional, or what advantages to
>> they have over global settings allowing one to change
>> embossers on the fly?
>>
>> Just Curious
>>
>> Jack
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:21 PM
>> Subject: [duxhelp] Question 99 - Embosser Setup
>>
>>
>> > OK. This is a hairy one, but I feel strongly enough to
>> > throw the question out to all of you.
>> >
>> > If you have multiple users of DBT, and/or more than one
>> > embosser in use, please bear with me and read on.
>> >
>> > Some background:
>> >
>> > You all know I'm a Duxbury dealer, and one who is perhaps
>> > slightly more passionate about DBT than normal. (If that
>> > makes me an eccentric, so be it - smile!) However, I'll
>> try
>> > to make my point in simplish terms.
>> >
>> > The current concept:
>> >
>> > At the moment, DBT's Embosser setup is set up in such a
>> way
>> > that it applies to the entire PC. One for all, and all
>> for
>> > one.
>> >
>> > For a single user, or even for a family, using one PC with
>> > different passwords, one embosser and one size of paper in
>> > that embosser, that's probably fine.
>> >
>> > My problem: (Even if it is only a British issue)
>> >
>> > Many of my users are schools, colleges and universities,
>> or
>> > major charities with dozens of work stations on a network.
>> >
>> > They often have two or more braille embossers.
>> >
>> > Moreover, they have many members of staff who will
>> > specifically not always use the same work station or
>> > embosser.
>> >
>> > However, each member of staff and indeed each student,
>> will
>> > have what is called a "Roving Profile". In short, when
>> they
>> > log on to ANY workstation, enter their Username and
>> > Password, they will have all their personal settings
>> > available to them.
>> >
>> > Those of you who have JAWS 6 installed on a system where
>> you
>> > have different users set up will appreciate what this
>> means.
>> >
>> >
>> > So your wife, husband, child, or friend can log in with
>> > their Username and Password, and any changes they have
>> made
>> > will be retained for them exclusively.
>> >
>> > The question:
>> >
>> > Should DBT's complete settings follow suite? And
>> > specifically including embosser settings?
>> >
>> > More background - and example:
>> >
>> > Student "A" normally uses a Braille Blazer - 34 cells by
>> 25
>> > lines. But student "B" prefers 32 cells by 25 lines.
>> They
>> > can use any of 20-30 different PC's in the Library, or
>> maybe
>> > even the same PC.
>> >
>> > So we are back to the question of embosser settings per
>> > machine (PC) or per user.
>> >
>> > Argument against per user:
>> >
>> > It means that each user, of which there could be dozens,
>> has
>> > to set up their own configurations. Lots of work.
>> >
>> > Argument for per user:
>> >
>> > - No more conflict with embosser settings.
>> >
>> > - Is in keeping with general Windows "Roving Profile"
>> > principles.
>> >
>> > O.K. I'll duck below the wire for now.
>> >
>> > George.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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