[duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion

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  • Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:07:50 +0100

Hi Peter,

My comments are based on the GLOBAL: Embosser Setup and 8th June
untested build.

> 1. When a New configuration is created, should it be selected in the
list automatically?

Yes, but only for the purposes of making changes to Lines, Characters,
margin, etc..!  Since the newly added configuration is not selected by
default, there is a very serious danger that a user may make changes to
the wrong configuration.  (And get murdered by his or her boss!)

But also remember, by simply moving focus to a specific configuration in
GLOBAL Embosser setup, THAT becomes the default configuration when you
create a new document.  So when the new configuration IS correctly
selected and amended, unless the user changes the selection, THAT
becomes the default.

Personally speaking, I would like to see a "Default" configuration
appropriately marked "(Default)" in the list. (and stored in the
Registry).

Then, similar to adding a printer in Windows, you are asked, "Do you
wish to make XXX your default configuration for all new documents?"

> 2. When a configuration is deleted, should another configuration be
selected?  If so, which?

If the suggestion above was implemented, select the Default.  If the
Default is selected for deletion, two dialogs:-  
1)  You are about to delete the Default configuration XXX, are you sure
you want to do this?"
2)  You have deleted the default configuration, you must now select a
new default.

> 3. Should configuration changes be made permanent even if Cancel is
used in the "Global, Embosser Setup" or "Document,  Embosser Setup"
dialog?

(Tries to think cautiously!)

I'd say "No" here, on the basis that if changes are made, the user is
(or should be) asked to confirm changes anyway.

George.
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: 07 June 2004 20:01
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion 
> 
> Ian,
> 
> The confusion of course may be alleviated.  I pose the 
> following questions:
> 
> 1. When a New configuration is created, should it be selected 
> in the list automatically?
> 2. When a configuration is deleted, should another 
> configuration be selected?  If so, which?
> 3. Should configuration changes be made permanent even if 
> Cancel is used in the "Global, Embosser Setup" or "Document, 
> Embosser Setup" dialog?
> 
> On that third question, I urge caution before jumping in with 
> a "Yes".  The reason that I urge caution is that making the 
> configuration changes permanent, while rejecting other 
> changes in the dialog, could leave us with the choice of 
> having DBT issue a "This won't fit" warning when Cancel is 
> used for the dialog or having DBT ignore the "This won't fit" 
> message until a document is embossed.  In either case, if a 
> configuration change results in a "This won't fit" situation, 
> the user who Cancels out of the outermost dialog may be 
> confused by this.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:45 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> Yes, I was getting confused.  Mind you, I think others will 
> too when DBT goes public.  Good luck to George with the Help 
> files. <smile>
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Ian
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:29 PM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion
> 
> 
> > Ian,
> >
> > I agree that this might be confusing.
> >
> > But your analysis is also confused.  You aren't changing 
> the settings 
> > "for the wrong setup".  The settings in the dialog you are 
> operating 
> > at this point are constrained by, but are in no way 
> affiliated with, 
> > the selected configuration.  That is, your job in this dialog is to 
> > choose a configuration and choose document settings that 
> are compatible with it.
> The
> > document settings don't affect the configuration.
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Ian Robinson
> > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:35 AM
> > To: List DBTBeta
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Embosser setup confusion
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > using Beta 3, Build Date: 24 May 2004.
> >
> > I'm just wondering if anyone else has got confused by the Embosser 
> > setup dialogue.
> >
> > 1.  Choose Embosser Setup from either the Global or Document menus.
> >
> > 2.  Press the New button and enter a setup name.
> >
> > 3.  Choose an embosser, then press the OK button.
> >
> > 4.  Control returns to the Setup dialogue, with the focus on the New
> button.
> >
> > at which point, the instinctive thing to do, is to tab through the 
> > rest of the dialogue setting the lines per page etc.  
> Unfortunately, 
> > the selected setup is not the one just created, but the one 
> that was 
> > selected when the New button was pressed.
> >
> > Put simply, the instinctive thing to do is change the 
> settings for the
> wrong
> > setup!
> >
> > Maybe it is more obvious to sighted users that the settings 
> are about 
> > to
> be
> > changed for the wrong setup, but for speech users I reckon 
> it is too 
> > easy
> to
> > make a mistake.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
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