[duxhelp] Re: Braille display quirk

  • From: Dave Durber <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:15:41 -0400

I have been using my braille display with DBT for the past four years.

Apart from a problem when video display gets screwed up, which is
simple enough to solve, I have had no problems in either reading the
menus of using the routing buttons to bring the cursor to a particular
location in order to either insert a style or format code at a
particular place on any line of text.

I say this while putting my hand out to touch the nearest piece of
wood.  Touch Wood!

Food luck!

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:56:18 -0700, you wrote:

>I am interested to know just how well DBT would function with JFW, if it was
>not script dpependent.
>
>Jack
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <brailleit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:29 PM
>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Braille display quirk
>
>
>> Aloha Karen,
>> I like the cursors tethered so that when I use the next and previous keys
>> and then press a cursor routing button, I am immediately where I need to
>be
>> to edit my file. I like seeing any blank lines on the display.
>>
>> I think my question is: Why do the DBT settings need to effect whatever
>> settings a person chooses in JFW? If I set JFW the way I want it, why
>can't
>> it just stay in that configuration?
>>
>> I hope I have been clear...
>> Betsy
>> At 06:07 AM 7/23/2004, you wrote:
>> >Hello Betsy.  I was puzzled by your report of the JAWS braille options
>> >switching back to Structured braille mode and no Tethering of braille and
>> >active cursors when you switch back into DBT from another application.  I
>> >was puzzled because I thought that you were changing the settings in your
>> >JAWS configuration file for DBT.  But then I re-read your earlier
>message,
>> >and I realized that you were changing these settings with the BrailleNote
>> >keys, and not chaging the .jcf file.
>> >
>> >Thanks to your messages, I have realized that I set some things in the
>JAWS
>> >configuration file for DBT that were in accordance with my own
>preferences,
>> >but not necessary to inflict on other users.  So I have redone the
>dbtw.jcf
>> >configuration file, being careful to set only those things that are
>relevant
>> >for DBT.  In particular, now the setting for Braille mode is left at the
>> >user's default setting.  Interestingly enough, in JAWS 4.X the
>factory-set
>> >default for this seems to be Line, but in JAWS 5.0 the factory-set
>default
>> >for this seems to be Structured.
>> >
>> >The issue of tethering is a bit more involved.  I've gone ahead and left
>out
>> >any setting for tethering.  Again, interestingly enough, in JAWS 4.X the
>> >default setting for this seems to be tethering on, and in JAWS 5.0 it
>seems
>> >to be tethering off.  Here's the complication.  When tethering is on, the
>> >mechanism in the script file that prevents the appearance of extra blank
>> >spaces in the lefthand cells of the braille display no longer works.  So
>I
>> >am inclined to turn tethering off, even though you prefer having it on.
>> >
>> >So I'd like to know more about why you prefer having tethering on.  Is it
>so
>> >that blank paragraphs appear on the display when you use the
>BrailleNote's
>> >Next and Previous keys to move by line.  If so, you might like having the
>> >BrailleNote's Next and Previous keys act just like the computer's
>DownArrow
>> >and UpArrow keys in DBT.  I've done that in my JAWS keyboard settings for
>> >DBT, and I think it works nicely.
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
>> >Press
>> >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:11 PM
>> >To: duxhelp-freelists.org
>> >Subject: [duxhelp] Braille display quirk
>> >
>> >
>> >I am using a BrailleNote, JAWS 4.2 Beta 10.5, and Win ME.
>> >
>> >Everytime I alt-tab between programs and then return to DBT, I have to
>> >reset the braille display to my preferred "line mode" and "tethered
>> >cursors. It seems there should be away to make it stay the same.
>> >
>> >Also, now when we have a .dxp file open and use control-t to translate
>it,
>> >when the braille document comes up, we are at whatever cursor position we
>> >were in the .dxp document. We used to be at the top of the .dxb document.
>> >Betsy
>> >
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