[duxhelp] Re: Braille display quirk

  • From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:56:18 -0700

I am interested to know just how well DBT would function with JFW, if it was
not script dpependent.

Jack

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <brailleit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:29 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Braille display quirk


> Aloha Karen,
> I like the cursors tethered so that when I use the next and previous keys
> and then press a cursor routing button, I am immediately where I need to
be
> to edit my file. I like seeing any blank lines on the display.
>
> I think my question is: Why do the DBT settings need to effect whatever
> settings a person chooses in JFW? If I set JFW the way I want it, why
can't
> it just stay in that configuration?
>
> I hope I have been clear...
> Betsy
> At 06:07 AM 7/23/2004, you wrote:
> >Hello Betsy.  I was puzzled by your report of the JAWS braille options
> >switching back to Structured braille mode and no Tethering of braille and
> >active cursors when you switch back into DBT from another application.  I
> >was puzzled because I thought that you were changing the settings in your
> >JAWS configuration file for DBT.  But then I re-read your earlier
message,
> >and I realized that you were changing these settings with the BrailleNote
> >keys, and not chaging the .jcf file.
> >
> >Thanks to your messages, I have realized that I set some things in the
JAWS
> >configuration file for DBT that were in accordance with my own
preferences,
> >but not necessary to inflict on other users.  So I have redone the
dbtw.jcf
> >configuration file, being careful to set only those things that are
relevant
> >for DBT.  In particular, now the setting for Braille mode is left at the
> >user's default setting.  Interestingly enough, in JAWS 4.X the
factory-set
> >default for this seems to be Line, but in JAWS 5.0 the factory-set
default
> >for this seems to be Structured.
> >
> >The issue of tethering is a bit more involved.  I've gone ahead and left
out
> >any setting for tethering.  Again, interestingly enough, in JAWS 4.X the
> >default setting for this seems to be tethering on, and in JAWS 5.0 it
seems
> >to be tethering off.  Here's the complication.  When tethering is on, the
> >mechanism in the script file that prevents the appearance of extra blank
> >spaces in the lefthand cells of the braille display no longer works.  So
I
> >am inclined to turn tethering off, even though you prefer having it on.
> >
> >So I'd like to know more about why you prefer having tethering on.  Is it
so
> >that blank paragraphs appear on the display when you use the
BrailleNote's
> >Next and Previous keys to move by line.  If so, you might like having the
> >BrailleNote's Next and Previous keys act just like the computer's
DownArrow
> >and UpArrow keys in DBT.  I've done that in my JAWS keyboard settings for
> >DBT, and I think it works nicely.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
> >Press
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:11 PM
> >To: duxhelp-freelists.org
> >Subject: [duxhelp] Braille display quirk
> >
> >
> >I am using a BrailleNote, JAWS 4.2 Beta 10.5, and Win ME.
> >
> >Everytime I alt-tab between programs and then return to DBT, I have to
> >reset the braille display to my preferred "line mode" and "tethered
> >cursors. It seems there should be away to make it stay the same.
> >
> >Also, now when we have a .dxp file open and use control-t to translate
it,
> >when the braille document comes up, we are at whatever cursor position we
> >were in the .dxp document. We used to be at the top of the .dxb document.
> >Betsy
> >
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