[duxhelp] Re: Braille display quirk

  • From: "Caryn Navy" <caryn@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:07:30 -0400

Aloha Betsy.  Yes, you have been clear.

I have made some adjustments so that the JAWS configuration file for DBT no
longer changes the setting for Braille mode (Line or Structured or
Speechbox).  But, for the tethering of braille and active cursors, here's
why I am inclined to set tethering off.  When tethering is on, the script
file is no longer able to prevent extra blank cells from appearing in the
leftmost cells on your braille display when you are reading a document.

To deal with the problem you mention about not seeing blank lines when you
read with the BrailleNote's thumb keys, I have modified my JAWS keyboard
settings for DBT so that the Next and Previous thumb keys act like the Up
and Down arrow keys on the computer's keyboard.

If you want to try this out, make a back-up copy of your existing dbtw.jcf
and dbtw.jkm files, and save the attached files in your JAWS settings\enu
directory.

You are still free to use the JAWS configuration manager to set Tethering
On.  But I prefer to set it Off in the supplied configuration file.

Cheers,
Caryn


-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 3:29 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Braille display quirk


Aloha Karen,
I like the cursors tethered so that when I use the next and previous keys
and then press a cursor routing button, I am immediately where I need to be
to edit my file. I like seeing any blank lines on the display.

I think my question is: Why do the DBT settings need to effect whatever
settings a person chooses in JFW? If I set JFW the way I want it, why can't
it just stay in that configuration?

I hope I have been clear...
Betsy
At 06:07 AM 7/23/2004, you wrote:
>Hello Betsy.  I was puzzled by your report of the JAWS braille options
>switching back to Structured braille mode and no Tethering of braille and
>active cursors when you switch back into DBT from another application.  I
>was puzzled because I thought that you were changing the settings in your
>JAWS configuration file for DBT.  But then I re-read your earlier message,
>and I realized that you were changing these settings with the BrailleNote
>keys, and not chaging the .jcf file.
>
>Thanks to your messages, I have realized that I set some things in the JAWS
>configuration file for DBT that were in accordance with my own preferences,
>but not necessary to inflict on other users.  So I have redone the dbtw.jcf
>configuration file, being careful to set only those things that are
relevant
>for DBT.  In particular, now the setting for Braille mode is left at the
>user's default setting.  Interestingly enough, in JAWS 4.X the factory-set
>default for this seems to be Line, but in JAWS 5.0 the factory-set default
>for this seems to be Structured.
>
>The issue of tethering is a bit more involved.  I've gone ahead and left
out
>any setting for tethering.  Again, interestingly enough, in JAWS 4.X the
>default setting for this seems to be tethering on, and in JAWS 5.0 it seems
>to be tethering off.  Here's the complication.  When tethering is on, the
>mechanism in the script file that prevents the appearance of extra blank
>spaces in the lefthand cells of the braille display no longer works.  So I
>am inclined to turn tethering off, even though you prefer having it on.
>
>So I'd like to know more about why you prefer having tethering on.  Is it
so
>that blank paragraphs appear on the display when you use the BrailleNote's
>Next and Previous keys to move by line.  If so, you might like having the
>BrailleNote's Next and Previous keys act just like the computer's DownArrow
>and UpArrow keys in DBT.  I've done that in my JAWS keyboard settings for
>DBT, and I think it works nicely.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
>Press
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:11 PM
>To: duxhelp-freelists.org
>Subject: [duxhelp] Braille display quirk
>
>
>I am using a BrailleNote, JAWS 4.2 Beta 10.5, and Win ME.
>
>Everytime I alt-tab between programs and then return to DBT, I have to
>reset the braille display to my preferred "line mode" and "tethered
>cursors. It seems there should be away to make it stay the same.
>
>Also, now when we have a .dxp file open and use control-t to translate it,
>when the braille document comes up, we are at whatever cursor position we
>were in the .dxp document. We used to be at the top of the .dxb document.
>Betsy
>
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