[duxhelp] Re: 10.5 and BrailleNote

  • From: Dave Durber <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:04:39 -0400

I think that both of your suggestions have there merits.

In the case of the average user who doesn't either write or update
JAWS scripts, the chances of those individuals using more than one
version of JAWS on their computer I would guess, is more of a rarity.
So, obviously, installing the JAWS scripts for DBT is therefore not a
problem.

However, for those of us who do have more than one version of JAWS on
our computers and have the need to switch between them for various
reasons, my personal preference would be for DBT to perform a search
for multiple versions of JAWS on a computer system and if it finds
more than one, to then give you the choice as to which version of JAWS
version you want the DBT scripts to be installed.

By doing this, it would save the need of having to make the choice of
(1) deleting the newly installed DBT scripts; (2) backing up the newly
installed DBT scripts to their own backup folder; and (3) copying the
backed-up third-party DBT scripts back to their original location.

As with many of these types of problems, there are a varying number of
ways to get from point A to point B.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:37:23 -0400, you wrote:

>Dave,
>
>It's an interesting suggestion -- and, for what it's worth, more something
>to bandy about with me and Mike.  Caryn writes the scripts, but has nothing
>to do with the SETUP program.
>
>I'm more inclined to think that we ought to reflect upon a way to do at
>least one of the following:
>  1. Prompt before overwriting any DBT.JSS that we didn't write here, but
>otherwise write to all JAWS locations, or
>  2. Backup any JAWS scripts that DBT's SETUP does overwrite -- and tell the
>end user that we've created the backup.
>
>The way SETUP "sprays" these macros across different JAWS installations is
>by design, and I do believe that it will be helpful to a great many people
>who aren't as able as you are to tweak things to their satisfaction.  In
>other words, we're aiming to make it so that the fully automated case serves
>best those who need it most -- people without much computer savvy.
>
>However, I do appreciate that we don't want to destroy work that others have
>done.  This is particularly pressing in the case of JAWS macros, because, if
>I don't miss my guess, people often update them directly in the installed
>location, and may not generally have up-to-date backups of these files.
>
>So, what do you think of the counter-proposal?
>
>- Peter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Dave Durber
>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:40 AM
>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: 10.5 and BrailleNote
>
>Hello Karen:
>
>I have three versions of Jaws installed on my computer.  The reasons why I
>have that many are too wide and various to explain.
>
>when I installed the various versions of DBT 10.5 beta onto my computer I
>noticed that if you selected to have the JAWS scripts installed as well, DBT
>10.5 made the assumption that because it saw JAWS 3.7 4.51 and 5.0 on my
>computer, it had the right to install the scripts into all three versions of
>JAWS whether I wanted the program to do that or not.
>
>This caused me a problem, because I had written a couple of scripts of my
>own for DBT.  So, obviously, when I launched DBT 10.4 to finish some files
>to be transcribed and embossed, to my surprise, I suddenly found that my
>scripts in JAWS 3.7 and 4.51 had been overwritten, therefore my own scripts
>which I had written were no longer available to me.
>
>When I checked the date of the file named "DBT.JSS" I found that the date
>stamp was April 2004.  The date stamp of my "DBT.JSS" file was July, 2003.
>
>May I suggest that DBT's installation should search for versions of JAWS
>that might be installed on a computer and if it finds more than one, then
>the program should prompt you as to which version you want the JAWS scripts
>to be installed.  You could present a list box from which you can make the
>selection.  In this way if you have a version of JAWS which may have a set
>of DBT scripts which was written by a third party, they would be protected
>from being arbitrarily overwritten by the DBT scripts that come with the DBT
>program.
>
>Sincerely:
>
>Dave Durber
>
>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:53:46 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Hello Dave.  The script files are designed to work reliably in JAWS 4.0 
>>and up.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Caryn
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dave Durber
>>Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 4:39 PM
>>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: 10.5 and BrailleNote
>>
>>
>>Hello Peter:
>>
>>I think that some of the problem may be caused by the fact that this 
>>person is running JAWS 4.2..
>>
>>Unless I am not mistaken, the scripts that are included for the DBT 
>>Beta 10.5 are written for JAWS 5.0.
>>
>>If that is the case, then the scripts will probably have new commands, 
>>functions and function calls included in them that are available in 
>>JAWS 5.0 that were not available when Jaws 4.2 was released.
>>
>>DBT users' should be made aware of this possible problem when they are 
>>installing the JAWS scripts for the new version of the DBT program.
>>
>>Sincerely:
>>
>>Dave Durber
>>
>>On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:49:00 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>Betsy,
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, our expert on these matters is out for the day.  This 
>>>is the first I've heard about this particular problem, so I'll ask 
>>>Caryn to have a look at it on Monday.
>>>
>>>- Peter
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, 
>>>Dolphin Press
>>>Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:38 AM
>>>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [duxhelp] 10.5 and BrailleNote
>>>
>>>I am running Win ME, JFW 4.02.52 and have downloaded DBT 10.5.
>>>
>>>When I open a translated braille file in DBT, I am not seeing the 
>>>blank lines as I use the thumbkeys on the braille display. If I use 
>>>the down
>>arrow
>>>on my regular keyboard, the blank lines show. Do I need to change some 
>>>setting in JFW? This was happening in the previous version of the beta
>>also.
>>>Betsy
>>>
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