[ddots-l] Re: song demos
- From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:25:19 -0700
not really, when you load a file as raw data it will read anything, even
corrupt material, it will read it just as data and what makes a difference
is what your format settings are, this means that most of the time the
result will be noise but if you have just the right audio settings it will
read it correctly with just some clicking noises that is the project data.
i've done it many times in the past.
salud.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:06 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos
> You would still need to be able to open the .cwb file to do that. How
> would you achieve this?
>
> Regards, Phil Muir
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:51 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos
>
>
>> you are right , but you can still load the audio from the cwb file
>> loading it as raw file in sf.
>> saludos
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:32 AM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos
>>
>>
>>> Luis wrote: Hi Phil:
>>> as far as I know the cwb file should be smaller because it does a single
>>> wave file with only the fragments that are recorded instead of having
>>> silence throughout the tracks.
>>>
>>> Phil replied: usually when you create a .cwb file, and if you haven't
>>> done any editing on it at all then, it will create lots of small wave
>>> files for each of the tracks, as you haven't compiled them all into one
>>> large edited wave file. After doing all of the various edits on tracks
>>> and using the "apply trimming" and "bounce to clips" commands, you will
>>> achieve the same results as you have described above.
>>>
>>> Luis wrote; when you bounce the tracks from top to bottom you'll get
>>> silent spaces.
>>>
>>> Phil replied; I hear what your saying however, if you have done the
>>> above mentioned steps, you shouldn't have any silence in any of your
>>> wave files.
>>>
>>> Luis wrote: then when compressing you can bring it down to 60 percent
>>> size.
>>>
>>> Phil replied: just tried a bit of an experiment here. I had a project
>>> and it's folder. The total size was 159MB in size. I .rared it and it
>>> became 111MB. So, just for fun, I bundled it and it it then, rared it,
>>> and it became 97MB. So, your definitely right about the bundle being
>>> smaller after raring it. However, I would still personally go with
>>> raring a per project folder and all of it's associated audio as bundles
>>> can fail to open some times. If that happens then, you could
>>> potentially loose all of the data in that project where as, if you say
>>> loose the .cwp file or, some of the audio attached to it then, it's
>>> still possible to build the project again from scratch.
>>>
>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>
>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>> Music And Audio Production
>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:04 AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Phil:
>>>> as far as i know the cwb file should be smaller because it does a
>>>> single wave file with only the fragments that are recorded instead of
>>>> having silence throughout the tracks.
>>>> when you bounce the tracks from top to bottom you'll get silent
>>>> spaces.
>>>> then when compressing you can bring it down to 60 percent size.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:07 PM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Luis wrote: the advantage of making a cwb file is that it will only
>>>>> grab the audio that
>>>>> is still being used by the project, without all edits and takes that
>>>>> are not
>>>>> used anymore, and still you can compress it to a rar file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil replied: well, if you deal with audio methodically e.g, do all
>>>>> edits on all of your tracks then, select all of the various audio
>>>>> tracks and use the "apply trimming" command then, select all of your
>>>>> various audio tracks again and use the "bounce to clips" command, and
>>>>> finally, use the "clean audio folder" option in the project folder
>>>>> that your working in then, you won't have any audio around that you
>>>>> don't need any more anyway. Note: I didn't suggest turning a .cwb
>>>>> file into a .rar file, as that will always work out bigger than raring
>>>>> up your project folder with the audio. Of course, if you don't want
>>>>> to work out which audio you need to keep then, you could save out the
>>>>> file as a .cwb then, unpack it and save the project. Then turn that
>>>>> folder and it's project into a .rar file and you would end up with a
>>>>> smaller file. The advantage of the approach that I have suggested is
>>>>> that you will only end up with 1 wave file per track. Where as, if you
>>>>> have done many edits on a track, and haven't used the "apply trimming"
>>>>> and "bounce to clips" commands then, you could have many wave files
>>>>> associated with that audio track.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
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