[ddots-l] Re: song demos

you are right , but you can still load the audio from the cwb file loading 
it as raw file in sf.
saludos

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos


> Luis wrote: Hi Phil:
> as far as I know the cwb file should be smaller because it does a single
> wave file with only the fragments that are recorded instead of having
> silence throughout the tracks.
>
> Phil replied: usually when you create a .cwb file, and if you haven't done 
> any editing on it at all then, it will create lots of small wave files for 
> each of the tracks, as you haven't compiled them all into one large edited 
> wave file.  After doing all of the various edits on tracks and using the 
> "apply trimming" and "bounce to clips" commands, you will achieve the same 
> results as you have described above.
>
> Luis wrote; when you bounce the tracks from top to bottom  you'll get 
> silent spaces.
>
> Phil replied; I hear what your saying however, if you have done the above 
> mentioned steps, you shouldn't have any silence in any of your wave files.
>
> Luis wrote: then when compressing you  can bring it down to 60 percent 
> size.
>
> Phil replied: just tried a bit of an experiment here.  I had a project and 
> it's folder.  The total size was 159MB in size.  I .rared it and it became 
> 111MB.  So, just for fun, I bundled it and it it then, rared it, and it 
> became 97MB.  So, your definitely right about the bundle being smaller 
> after raring it.  However, I would still personally go with raring a per 
> project folder and all of it's associated audio as bundles can fail to 
> open some times.  If that happens then, you could potentially loose all of 
> the data in that project where as, if you say loose the .cwp file or, some 
> of the audio attached to it then, it's still possible to build the project 
> again from scratch.
>
> Regards, Phil Muir
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Luis Elorza" <luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:04 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos
>
>
>> Hi Phil:
>> as far as i know the cwb file should be smaller because it does a single 
>> wave file with only the fragments that are recorded instead of having 
>> silence throughout the tracks.
>> when you bounce the tracks from top to bottom  you'll get silent spaces.
>> then when compressing you  can bring it down to 60 percent  size.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:07 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: song demos
>>
>>
>>> Luis wrote: the advantage of making a cwb file is that it will only grab 
>>> the audio that
>>> is still being used by the project, without all edits and takes that are 
>>> not
>>> used anymore, and still you can  compress it to a rar file.
>>>
>>> Phil replied: well, if you deal with audio methodically e.g, do all 
>>> edits on all of your tracks then, select all of the various audio tracks 
>>> and use the "apply trimming" command then, select all of your various 
>>> audio tracks again and use the "bounce to clips" command, and finally, 
>>> use the "clean audio folder" option in the project folder that your 
>>> working in then, you won't have any audio around that you don't need any 
>>> more anyway.  Note: I didn't suggest turning a .cwb file into a .rar 
>>> file, as that will always work out bigger than raring up your project 
>>> folder with the audio.  Of course, if you don't want to work out which 
>>> audio you need to keep then, you could save out the file as a .cwb then, 
>>> unpack it and save the project.  Then turn that folder and it's project 
>>> into a .rar file and you would end up with a smaller file.  The 
>>> advantage of the approach that I have suggested is that you will only 
>>> end up with 1 wave file per track. Where as, if you have done many edits 
>>> on a track, and haven't used the "apply trimming" and "bounce to clips" 
>>> commands then, you could have many wave files associated with that audio 
>>> track.
>>>
>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>
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