[ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping sound in the background

  • From: Efren Chavez <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:19:57 -0400

Hey DJX.

I actually am planning to run multiple synths with plug in effects,
but I wont test that out till next week. I need to look at the cake
talking tutorial for a lot of those functions, but I guess I'll have
to try to prepare this laptop for music production. My laptop has a
slot for adding 4 gigs or ram. You think that will in hance the
processing power? Just a thought. Also freezing tracks should help me
out though am I not right?

Thanks

On 10/17/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hey, glad to hear things are improving! When I asked about the chipset
> however, I was speaking of the computer's motherboard chipset. Though
> firewire chipset is also important if you're using a firewire interface.
> You could probably get the motherboard chipset from looking up the model
> specs, but remember some systems are customized a bit differently, though if
> you bought this off the shelf it should be the same major components,
> including the motherboard.
>
> For firewire chipsets, if you have an audio interface that uses firewire,
> best bet is to look at what chipsets the manufacturer does and does not
> recommend. Texas instruments is for the most part the universal choice, but
> some from Via work as well, and from what I've heard, some people who got
> crappy performance with texas instruments chipsets had great success with
> Via chipsets. Furthermore, there might be a specific chipset from either
> company that the interface manufacturer recommends, so do some research. But
> in general, unless you bought a laptop that was prepared for audio, if you
> don't optimize that one for audio work (and sometimes even if you do), you
> just won't get the full performance. This all depends of course on what
> you're planning to do in terms of audio work; if you just want to play a few
> soft synths, you might be ok. If you want to run synths, realtime effects
> and other plugIns all at once, you will most likely run into problems!
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Efren Chavez
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:38 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping sound
> in the background
>
> Hey everyone.
>
> I did manage to change  it to the asio drivers for my sound card and it is
> doing a lot better. I had a couple drop outs with the first two midi tracks
> but other than that it was good. Latency issue and popping noise is
> resolved, but I thing you guys are right my system isn't keeping up. I
> loaded the catch me if you can sample and it didn't drop out like it was
> yesterday. Asfor my chipset I can i find out what i have. Can i just google
> it with my lap top model numberAlso anyone know a good chipset? Chris had
> mention a texas instrument chipset. Are they expensive? I found an article
> that stated that a good chipset would be the T1394. don't know what that
> means.
>
> Also I haven't done a big project involving multiple synth inserts like
> demention pro. . If i am having issues now, will they only be worse? I'll
> probabley test it out next week because i am prety busy now.
>
> sorry for the extremely long message
> Thanks
>
> On 10/16/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> While asio for all does provide some solution, if you have a decent
>> audio interface, your interface should provide native asio drivers.
>> Good driver support that deal directly with the interface is usually the
> best way to go.
>> Go to sonar's options>Audio, in the advanced tab, first make sure that
>> th profile (interface) you are dealing with is the one for your
>> interface, then go to driver type and select asio (if it's available).
>> Then press apply and then ok. Try restarting sonar and then take it
>> for a spin and see. Note that the restarting sonar is not a required
>> thing for sonar 8.x, but I always do it just because :) But Rui is
>> right, your system needs to be optimized for working with audio
>> applications, and with laptops problems are even more than on a
>> desktop, due to certain incompatibilities, and because a laptop for
>> the most part will just not give you the same power as a desktop,
>> unless you go to the upper upper end.
>>
>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rui Vilarinho
>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:35 AM
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>> sound in the background
>>
>> Hi Efren ,
>> If I'm not wrong, if you are using the Wave profile, it's because you
>> are not using ASIO drives, instead you are using WDM drives.
>>
>> I've been there!
>>   Download the, free, ASIO 4 All drive, , and you have a part of your
>> problems resolved. All parameters are very accessible.
>> Buffer size plus kernel parameters need to be all the time on top of it.
>> It's a bit like this, if you are recording you need to put down the
>> buffer size because of latency, drop outs, etc...
>> For mixing or mastering work, the opposite is needed, larger buffer
>> size, plus more quantity of kernels.
>>
>> Another thing.Be aware that  PC's, need   to be better config to work with
>> this kind of hard processment.
>>
>> You need to check on MS config, some aplications that dont really need
>> to be working at the time that you are using Sonar. Or, check Start Up
>> aplications aswell. So much that you can do to improve PC's reaction!!!
>>
>> All machine, as a limit!
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Rui Vilarinho
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Efren Chavez" <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:15 AM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>> sound in the background
>>
>>
>>> Hey guys updating you on the status of my latency issues. I went to
>>> the options menu on sonar and clicked on audio. I clicked on the wave
>>> profiler and then messed with the buffer size. It was at 2 and 49
>>> percent. I managed to get it down to 10 percent which allowed me to
>>> play a drum kit like the way i wanted to. any where from 10 to 25
>>> percent, the response is excelent. However now i have another problem.
>>> I am getting drop outs after i play the second midi track. I try
>>> freezing the track with the drum kit and it would freeze everything
>>> and prevent me from further recording. Is there a way to freeze only
>>> one track Thanks I think i got my latency issues fixed. I still don't
>>> know for sure.
>>> Thanks for the assistance.
>>>
>>> On 10/15/11, Efren Chavez <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I checked on the start menu and didn't find anything new that
>>>> related to the soundcard. Should I reinstall the drivers or look in
>>>> it to see if i can find something? To DJX. I have a sony Vaio laptop
>>>> duel core intell 5 with 4 gigs of ram, and windows seven 64 bit
> professional.
>>>> However I installed the 32 bit of sonar version. Also, the project
>>>> was just a little demo to test the latency. I didn't load demention
>>>> pro or anything just the default cake walk tts. The computer seamed
>>>> to be doing good though. I think it's something to do with the
> interface.
>>>> I'm about to insert the disk again to see if i can find any thing. I
>>>> even tried finding something on the search box at start.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On 10/15/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> It could be a buffer setting, or depending on your system it could
>>>>> be that it's not able to keep up with the demands of the soft synth
>>>>> and all the other processes. What are the specs for your system?
>>>>> OS, processor, amount of ram, software used etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Efren Chavez
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:46 PM
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>>>> sound in the background
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got my sound card and it is a sonar tricapture USB. The
>>>>> latency level and response ok, but when i play a sequence of notes
>>>>> at a rapid pace it will not play like I did. Also, I am hearing a
>>>>> popping sound in the background and the sound sounds distorted. It
>>>>> sounds ok when I export though. I did some research and found that
>>>>> the popping sound may be due to small buffer size. Where would I
>>>>> change that. Also do asio drivers come pre-installed on the
>>>>> computer? If so how will I change the settings to optimize the
>>>>> latency issue and sound quality?I installed the tricapture
>>>>> soundcard drivers and didn;t mess with any settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, sorry for the long message
>>>>>
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>>>>>  Efren Chavez
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>>>>
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