[ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping sound in the background
- From: Efren Chavez <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:05:59 -0400
I just gave another run on sonar. Had around 10 midi tracks with soft
synths from tts1 and did a quick instrumental, and my computer is
deffinately doing better. I did what all you guys mentioned and kept
messing with the buffer and asio drivers. I think my computer is
capable thus far, and as for the chipset: I think I'm clear on that
one. I don't have latency, or drop outs anymore, however my computer
is getting pretty heated. I guess the real test will be when I begin
to mess with effects and multiple plug ins.
Thanks for all the help and support, my latency issue is now fixed.
On 10/18/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ram will help, but if by processing power you mean CPU power, no. Also, the
> first thing to do here is not just change things to make it better, find the
> source of the problem first; like I wrote previously, the problem could be
> one of a few things, a firewire chipset missmatch (if you're using a
> firewire interface), problems with your laptop's chipset, too many services
> running, antivirus/malware programs running, CPU parking/power saving
> features etc.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Efren Chavez
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:20 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping sound
> in the background
>
> Hey DJX.
>
> I actually am planning to run multiple synths with plug in effects, but I
> wont test that out till next week. I need to look at the cake talking
> tutorial for a lot of those functions, but I guess I'll have to try to
> prepare this laptop for music production. My laptop has a slot for adding 4
> gigs or ram. You think that will in hance the processing power? Just a
> thought. Also freezing tracks should help me out though am I not right?
>
> Thanks
>
> On 10/17/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hey, glad to hear things are improving! When I asked about the chipset
>> however, I was speaking of the computer's motherboard chipset. Though
>> firewire chipset is also important if you're using a firewire interface.
>> You could probably get the motherboard chipset from looking up the
>> model specs, but remember some systems are customized a bit
>> differently, though if you bought this off the shelf it should be the
>> same major components, including the motherboard.
>>
>> For firewire chipsets, if you have an audio interface that uses
>> firewire, best bet is to look at what chipsets the manufacturer does
>> and does not recommend. Texas instruments is for the most part the
>> universal choice, but some from Via work as well, and from what I've
>> heard, some people who got crappy performance with texas instruments
>> chipsets had great success with Via chipsets. Furthermore, there might
>> be a specific chipset from either company that the interface
>> manufacturer recommends, so do some research. But in general, unless
>> you bought a laptop that was prepared for audio, if you don't optimize
>> that one for audio work (and sometimes even if you do), you just won't
>> get the full performance. This all depends of course on what you're
>> planning to do in terms of audio work; if you just want to play a few
>> soft synths, you might be ok. If you want to run synths, realtime effects
> and other plugIns all at once, you will most likely run into problems!
>>
>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Efren Chavez
>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:38 PM
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>> sound in the background
>>
>> Hey everyone.
>>
>> I did manage to change it to the asio drivers for my sound card and
>> it is doing a lot better. I had a couple drop outs with the first two
>> midi tracks but other than that it was good. Latency issue and popping
>> noise is resolved, but I thing you guys are right my system isn't
>> keeping up. I loaded the catch me if you can sample and it didn't drop
>> out like it was yesterday. Asfor my chipset I can i find out what i
>> have. Can i just google it with my lap top model numberAlso anyone
>> know a good chipset? Chris had mention a texas instrument chipset. Are
>> they expensive? I found an article that stated that a good chipset
>> would be the T1394. don't know what that means.
>>
>> Also I haven't done a big project involving multiple synth inserts
>> like demention pro. . If i am having issues now, will they only be
>> worse? I'll probabley test it out next week because i am prety busy now.
>>
>> sorry for the extremely long message
>> Thanks
>>
>> On 10/16/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> While asio for all does provide some solution, if you have a decent
>>> audio interface, your interface should provide native asio drivers.
>>> Good driver support that deal directly with the interface is usually
>>> the
>> best way to go.
>>> Go to sonar's options>Audio, in the advanced tab, first make sure
>>> that th profile (interface) you are dealing with is the one for your
>>> interface, then go to driver type and select asio (if it's available).
>>> Then press apply and then ok. Try restarting sonar and then take it
>>> for a spin and see. Note that the restarting sonar is not a required
>>> thing for sonar 8.x, but I always do it just because :) But Rui is
>>> right, your system needs to be optimized for working with audio
>>> applications, and with laptops problems are even more than on a
>>> desktop, due to certain incompatibilities, and because a laptop for
>>> the most part will just not give you the same power as a desktop,
>>> unless you go to the upper upper end.
>>>
>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rui Vilarinho
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:35 AM
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>> sound in the background
>>>
>>> Hi Efren ,
>>> If I'm not wrong, if you are using the Wave profile, it's because you
>>> are not using ASIO drives, instead you are using WDM drives.
>>>
>>> I've been there!
>>> Download the, free, ASIO 4 All drive, , and you have a part of your
>>> problems resolved. All parameters are very accessible.
>>> Buffer size plus kernel parameters need to be all the time on top of it.
>>> It's a bit like this, if you are recording you need to put down the
>>> buffer size because of latency, drop outs, etc...
>>> For mixing or mastering work, the opposite is needed, larger buffer
>>> size, plus more quantity of kernels.
>>>
>>> Another thing.Be aware that PC's, need to be better config to work
> with
>>> this kind of hard processment.
>>>
>>> You need to check on MS config, some aplications that dont really
>>> need to be working at the time that you are using Sonar. Or, check
>>> Start Up aplications aswell. So much that you can do to improve PC's
> reaction!!!
>>>
>>> All machine, as a limit!
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Rui Vilarinho
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Efren Chavez" <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:15 AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>> sound in the background
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey guys updating you on the status of my latency issues. I went to
>>>> the options menu on sonar and clicked on audio. I clicked on the
>>>> wave profiler and then messed with the buffer size. It was at 2 and
>>>> 49 percent. I managed to get it down to 10 percent which allowed me
>>>> to play a drum kit like the way i wanted to. any where from 10 to 25
>>>> percent, the response is excelent. However now i have another problem.
>>>> I am getting drop outs after i play the second midi track. I try
>>>> freezing the track with the drum kit and it would freeze everything
>>>> and prevent me from further recording. Is there a way to freeze only
>>>> one track Thanks I think i got my latency issues fixed. I still
>>>> don't know for sure.
>>>> Thanks for the assistance.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/15/11, Efren Chavez <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> I checked on the start menu and didn't find anything new that
>>>>> related to the soundcard. Should I reinstall the drivers or look in
>>>>> it to see if i can find something? To DJX. I have a sony Vaio
>>>>> laptop duel core intell 5 with 4 gigs of ram, and windows seven 64
>>>>> bit
>> professional.
>>>>> However I installed the 32 bit of sonar version. Also, the project
>>>>> was just a little demo to test the latency. I didn't load demention
>>>>> pro or anything just the default cake walk tts. The computer seamed
>>>>> to be doing good though. I think it's something to do with the
>> interface.
>>>>> I'm about to insert the disk again to see if i can find any thing.
>>>>> I even tried finding something on the search box at start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/15/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> It could be a buffer setting, or depending on your system it could
>>>>>> be that it's not able to keep up with the demands of the soft
>>>>>> synth and all the other processes. What are the specs for your system?
>>>>>> OS, processor, amount of ram, software used etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Efren Chavez
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:46 PM
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>>>>> sound in the background
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got my sound card and it is a sonar tricapture USB. The
>>>>>> latency level and response ok, but when i play a sequence of notes
>>>>>> at a rapid pace it will not play like I did. Also, I am hearing a
>>>>>> popping sound in the background and the sound sounds distorted. It
>>>>>> sounds ok when I export though. I did some research and found that
>>>>>> the popping sound may be due to small buffer size. Where would I
>>>>>> change that. Also do asio drivers come pre-installed on the
>>>>>> computer? If so how will I change the settings to optimize the
>>>>>> latency issue and sound quality?I installed the tricapture
>>>>>> soundcard drivers and didn;t mess with any settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, sorry for the long message
>>>>>>
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