[ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping sound in the background
- From: Efren Chavez <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:05:55 -0400
yes.
On 10/19/11, Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Efren,
>
> Pretty hot? Are you using a laptop?
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Efren Chavez" <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 21:05
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping sound
> in the background
>
>
> I just gave another run on sonar. Had around 10 midi tracks with soft
> synths from tts1 and did a quick instrumental, and my computer is
> deffinately doing better. I did what all you guys mentioned and kept
> messing with the buffer and asio drivers. I think my computer is
> capable thus far, and as for the chipset: I think I'm clear on that
> one. I don't have latency, or drop outs anymore, however my computer
> is getting pretty heated. I guess the real test will be when I begin
> to mess with effects and multiple plug ins.
>
> Thanks for all the help and support, my latency issue is now fixed.
>
> On 10/18/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Ram will help, but if by processing power you mean CPU power, no. Also,
>> the
>> first thing to do here is not just change things to make it better, find
>> the
>> source of the problem first; like I wrote previously, the problem could be
>> one of a few things, a firewire chipset missmatch (if you're using a
>> firewire interface), problems with your laptop's chipset, too many
>> services
>> running, antivirus/malware programs running, CPU parking/power saving
>> features etc.
>>
>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Efren Chavez
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:20 AM
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>> sound
>> in the background
>>
>> Hey DJX.
>>
>> I actually am planning to run multiple synths with plug in effects, but I
>> wont test that out till next week. I need to look at the cake talking
>> tutorial for a lot of those functions, but I guess I'll have to try to
>> prepare this laptop for music production. My laptop has a slot for adding
>> 4
>> gigs or ram. You think that will in hance the processing power? Just a
>> thought. Also freezing tracks should help me out though am I not right?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On 10/17/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hey, glad to hear things are improving! When I asked about the chipset
>>> however, I was speaking of the computer's motherboard chipset. Though
>>> firewire chipset is also important if you're using a firewire interface.
>>> You could probably get the motherboard chipset from looking up the
>>> model specs, but remember some systems are customized a bit
>>> differently, though if you bought this off the shelf it should be the
>>> same major components, including the motherboard.
>>>
>>> For firewire chipsets, if you have an audio interface that uses
>>> firewire, best bet is to look at what chipsets the manufacturer does
>>> and does not recommend. Texas instruments is for the most part the
>>> universal choice, but some from Via work as well, and from what I've
>>> heard, some people who got crappy performance with texas instruments
>>> chipsets had great success with Via chipsets. Furthermore, there might
>>> be a specific chipset from either company that the interface
>>> manufacturer recommends, so do some research. But in general, unless
>>> you bought a laptop that was prepared for audio, if you don't optimize
>>> that one for audio work (and sometimes even if you do), you just won't
>>> get the full performance. This all depends of course on what you're
>>> planning to do in terms of audio work; if you just want to play a few
>>> soft synths, you might be ok. If you want to run synths, realtime effects
>> and other plugIns all at once, you will most likely run into problems!
>>>
>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Efren Chavez
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:38 PM
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>> sound in the background
>>>
>>> Hey everyone.
>>>
>>> I did manage to change it to the asio drivers for my sound card and
>>> it is doing a lot better. I had a couple drop outs with the first two
>>> midi tracks but other than that it was good. Latency issue and popping
>>> noise is resolved, but I thing you guys are right my system isn't
>>> keeping up. I loaded the catch me if you can sample and it didn't drop
>>> out like it was yesterday. Asfor my chipset I can i find out what i
>>> have. Can i just google it with my lap top model numberAlso anyone
>>> know a good chipset? Chris had mention a texas instrument chipset. Are
>>> they expensive? I found an article that stated that a good chipset
>>> would be the T1394. don't know what that means.
>>>
>>> Also I haven't done a big project involving multiple synth inserts
>>> like demention pro. . If i am having issues now, will they only be
>>> worse? I'll probabley test it out next week because i am prety busy now.
>>>
>>> sorry for the extremely long message
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On 10/16/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> While asio for all does provide some solution, if you have a decent
>>>> audio interface, your interface should provide native asio drivers.
>>>> Good driver support that deal directly with the interface is usually
>>>> the
>>> best way to go.
>>>> Go to sonar's options>Audio, in the advanced tab, first make sure
>>>> that th profile (interface) you are dealing with is the one for your
>>>> interface, then go to driver type and select asio (if it's available).
>>>> Then press apply and then ok. Try restarting sonar and then take it
>>>> for a spin and see. Note that the restarting sonar is not a required
>>>> thing for sonar 8.x, but I always do it just because :) But Rui is
>>>> right, your system needs to be optimized for working with audio
>>>> applications, and with laptops problems are even more than on a
>>>> desktop, due to certain incompatibilities, and because a laptop for
>>>> the most part will just not give you the same power as a desktop,
>>>> unless you go to the upper upper end.
>>>>
>>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rui Vilarinho
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:35 AM
>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>>> sound in the background
>>>>
>>>> Hi Efren ,
>>>> If I'm not wrong, if you are using the Wave profile, it's because you
>>>> are not using ASIO drives, instead you are using WDM drives.
>>>>
>>>> I've been there!
>>>> Download the, free, ASIO 4 All drive, , and you have a part of your
>>>> problems resolved. All parameters are very accessible.
>>>> Buffer size plus kernel parameters need to be all the time on top of it.
>>>> It's a bit like this, if you are recording you need to put down the
>>>> buffer size because of latency, drop outs, etc...
>>>> For mixing or mastering work, the opposite is needed, larger buffer
>>>> size, plus more quantity of kernels.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing.Be aware that PC's, need to be better config to work
>> with
>>>> this kind of hard processment.
>>>>
>>>> You need to check on MS config, some aplications that dont really
>>>> need to be working at the time that you are using Sonar. Or, check
>>>> Start Up aplications aswell. So much that you can do to improve PC's
>> reaction!!!
>>>>
>>>> All machine, as a limit!
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Rui Vilarinho
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Efren Chavez" <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:15 AM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>>> sound in the background
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys updating you on the status of my latency issues. I went to
>>>>> the options menu on sonar and clicked on audio. I clicked on the
>>>>> wave profiler and then messed with the buffer size. It was at 2 and
>>>>> 49 percent. I managed to get it down to 10 percent which allowed me
>>>>> to play a drum kit like the way i wanted to. any where from 10 to 25
>>>>> percent, the response is excelent. However now i have another problem.
>>>>> I am getting drop outs after i play the second midi track. I try
>>>>> freezing the track with the drum kit and it would freeze everything
>>>>> and prevent me from further recording. Is there a way to freeze only
>>>>> one track Thanks I think i got my latency issues fixed. I still
>>>>> don't know for sure.
>>>>> Thanks for the assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/15/11, Efren Chavez <efrenchavez91@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> I checked on the start menu and didn't find anything new that
>>>>>> related to the soundcard. Should I reinstall the drivers or look in
>>>>>> it to see if i can find something? To DJX. I have a sony Vaio
>>>>>> laptop duel core intell 5 with 4 gigs of ram, and windows seven 64
>>>>>> bit
>>> professional.
>>>>>> However I installed the 32 bit of sonar version. Also, the project
>>>>>> was just a little demo to test the latency. I didn't load demention
>>>>>> pro or anything just the default cake walk tts. The computer seamed
>>>>>> to be doing good though. I think it's something to do with the
>>> interface.
>>>>>> I'm about to insert the disk again to see if i can find any thing.
>>>>>> I even tried finding something on the search box at start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/15/11, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> It could be a buffer setting, or depending on your system it could
>>>>>>> be that it's not able to keep up with the demands of the soft
>>>>>>> synth and all the other processes. What are the specs for your
>>>>>>> system?
>>>>>>> OS, processor, amount of ram, software used etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Efren Chavez
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:46 PM
>>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] having issues with the latency hearing popping
>>>>>>> sound in the background
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just got my sound card and it is a sonar tricapture USB. The
>>>>>>> latency level and response ok, but when i play a sequence of notes
>>>>>>> at a rapid pace it will not play like I did. Also, I am hearing a
>>>>>>> popping sound in the background and the sound sounds distorted. It
>>>>>>> sounds ok when I export though. I did some research and found that
>>>>>>> the popping sound may be due to small buffer size. Where would I
>>>>>>> change that. Also do asio drivers come pre-installed on the
>>>>>>> computer? If so how will I change the settings to optimize the
>>>>>>> latency issue and sound quality?I installed the tricapture
>>>>>>> soundcard drivers and didn;t mess with any settings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, sorry for the long message
>>>>>>>
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