the MOTU 2408MKII is not the same product as the 828. The 828 was the later generation of produc. Phil's box has nothing to do with firewire. I don't think the 828 series used PCI cards. All you should need is an open firewire port. Check MOTU.com for product details and specifications. K. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kylee Maloney Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:02 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU 828 Firewire Ah, Okay. I guess it's then a question of whether this person has the breakout box. Thanks again. Kylee ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU 828 Firewire That's the name of the breakout box that ships with the MOTU 2408. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions Music And Audio Production URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kylee <mailto:kylee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Maloney To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU 828 Firewire Thanks Phil. Please forgive my ignorance. What is the mkII please? The ad doesn't mention mkII so I guess I need to know if that's important. Thanks for your help. Cheers Kylee ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Muir To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:49 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU 828 Firewire MOTU gear is excellent. I use a MOTU 2408 with the mkII interface here. Go for it! Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions Music And Audio Production URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kylee Maloney <mailto:kylee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:05 AM Subject: [ddots-l] MOTU 828 Firewire Hi, all I have a feeling one or two of you might be familiar with this card. They're hard to come by in this part of the world, but I've seen a good second-hand one and I'm wondering about its use. What is it like? Does it have a break-out box or is it for a rack? What about accessibility of control panel etc? The seller is selling on behalf of someone else and has not used it. As I say, it's not something people in NZ are particularly familiar with it unless they're really keen as there's no distributor here. any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. Cheers Kylee _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/560 - Release Date: 30/11/2006 3:41 p.m. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/560 - Release Date: 30/11/2006 3:41 p.m.