[ddots-l] Re: ChordStrum.cal
- From: "Bryan Smart" <BSmart@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:18:20 -0500
Phil, it happens to everyone. I almost had a patent for a wireless automatic
bar code identification system for the blind that would automatically pull
data off the air, so you'd have a constantly up-to-date database. I almost
beat everyone else to building a low cost CCTV out of the same tech used for
cheap web cams and using the PC as a display and image processor. I had all
sorts of ideas that were already privately baking in the minds of people
that were just ahead of me. One day, I'll be first.
If your script is complete, then I'd encourage you to finish it up. It still
would be cool for typical MIDI module guitar patches. Real Guitar costs
several hundred (can't remember specifically), and the Motif and Tyros are
pricy, to. There are lots of people that have other modules with out the
Mo's arpeggiator, or even softsynth modules like HS2 that could use this. I
just wanted to throw this guitar info out there for everyone to know what is
possible.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:46 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: ChordStrum.cal
Story of my life--I'm always a day late and a dollar short. I once spent
months writing a program to manipulate written text. I really thought I was
onto something big--keeping it all very hush hush, close to the vest-- til
someone told me about word processors. Oh well...
Now that you've completely crushed all my hopes and aspirations, I have only
one question. How accessible is this darn "real Guitar"?
Actually though, the editting load isn't much--you just enter the chords you
want, then rerecord over it in sos mode playing the upstroke events and any
other reserve function keys. Then quantize and run the script.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Smart" <BSmart@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: ChordStrum.cal
> Holy event editor Batman! Well, that sounds like a huge huge amount of
> editing is required to get results. That is an amazing effort of work
> to put that script together, and I don't mean to discourage you from
> it, but here are a few other ways that I've found for producing
> realistic guitar strums.
>
> There is a softsynth from Musiclabs called Real Guitar. It has many
> performance modes, but one of them is intended for performing
> realistic guitar strums. With one hand, you play a cord (in piano
> style, first inversion), and with the other hand, you press reserved
> note keys that control performance technique. For example, you hold
> down an e and g with your left hand to indicate and e minor cord, and
> you rock back and forth between pressing a C# and a d# with your right
> hand to alternate between up and down strumming. The program is smart
> enough to figure out the correct guitar fingering for whatever cord
> you're playing. There are also keys in the right hand for performing
> mutes, slaps, etc. Incidentally, Real Guitar has other cool modes,
> such as pick mode. Pick mode works similarly to the strum mode that I
> described, except the right-hand performance control keys have
> different functions. There are the mute/slap keys, but you can play C
> through A to play individual notes in the cord. This means that you
> can hold down a few notes in a piano style cord with your left hand,
> and arpeggiate up and down through the strings with your right hand,
> among other approaches. The sample library contains steal and nylon
> acoustic guitars, sampled at every fret, with 10 alternate samples for
> each fret. So, even if you retrigger the same note over and over, it
> doesn't sound like the same sample again and again. The plug in can be
> edited from either the inspector or DirectiXer.
>
> Besides dedicated softsynths, there are the Motif ES and Tyros, with
> their mega voice guitars, and specialized arpeggiators that will
> produce all sorts of guitar riffs, complete with mutes, bends, etc, in
> whatever cord you play.
>
> The Mo/Tyros is probably the best bet for quickly producing electric
> guitar tracks. There aren't nearly as many systems for electric guitar
> as their are for acoustic. There are a few electric guitar solutions
> that I know of for Giga, like the LPC stuff, but that requires more
> programming than playing.
>
> One exception, though, is ReFX's Slayer. This softsynth can produce
> all of the chugging electric rhythm guitar parts that you'd ever want.
> They sound better than any synth that I've ever heard. The guitar is
> physically modeled. It sounds great through distortion, with lots of
> tone variation that you don't get from sample libraries. However, if
> you take the effects off of it, it sounds a bit synthetic, so you'd
> never be able to use it for funk or R&B where clean electric is common.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Greg Brayton
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:48 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: ChordStrum.cal
>
> Phil I'm a guitar player, and I'd love to try this, but as a computer
> wise fellow, you'd have to say I'm not as with it. However, if you
> could talk me through some things instilation wise, and any other
> technical deal that might come along, I'd love to give this deal a
> try. Thanks for trying this stuff Phil. I think it's great!
> http://www.gbrayton.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "ddots-l" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:51 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] ChordStrum.cal
>
>
>> Hello listers,
>>
>> A while back I mentioned a CAL program I was working up to enable
>> chord strumming. Well, I've been working like a dog on this software
>> and have probably over 150 hours of development into it now. The
>> good news for me
> is
>> that its essentially finished and I'm doing final testing and working
>> up
> the
>> documentation for it(the easy part).
>>
>> It features the ability to:
>> Set the span of chord tones (the seperation of chord tones in ticks)
>>
>> Scale and reverse scale the span by percentages (increases, or
>> decreases
> if
>> reverse scaling, span of latter chord tones an additional x%)
>>
>> set velocity of chords with different settings available for
>> upstrokes and downstrokes. Also allows for scaling and reverse
>> scaling of chord tone velocities.
>>
>> Set duration of chords, with ability to randomly adjust durations of
>> individual chord tones for a "looser" feel.
>>
>> All settings are made at runtime, but you can also adjust program
>> settings "on the fly" from within the sequence itself through the use
>> of "chord events" which are manually embedded notes from the zero
>> octave that the program responds to by adjusting settings
>> accordingly, and then
> discarding
>> from the sequence. These "chord event" markers can be combined in
> different
>> ways for different effects like upstroke, reverse velocity scaling,
>> linear span etc.
>>
>> Its fairly powerful and flexible compared with most CAL programs I've
> seen.
>> Now that I've encoded all the features I thought useful, all that
>> remains
> is
>> to put it through its paces and see how these features combine, and
>> just what they're capable of producing.
>>
>> My goal in all this has been to produce a program that will answer
>> the
> need
>> for a flexible and easy to use way to simulate realistic guitar
>> rhythm patterns from a MIDI controller. As much as possible, I have
>> kept the emphasis on intuitiveness and simplicity of use. The
>> biggest problem with CAL scripts is that basically, you have no real
>> idea what they will do as there is virtually no documentation that
>> accompanies them. So, I am
> writing
>> up a full length documentation as well as a few sammple Sonar
>> projects showing its use.
>>
>>
>> If anyone(preferably a guitar player with plenty of Sonar experience)
> would
>> be interested in doing a little beta testing, please contact me
>> off-list
> at:
>>
>> philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
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