MIDI and audio are two different things. You need both. You have audio 1/4" jacks that send the audio signal. You have USB that sends and receives MIDI in your case. Both are indispensable. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Wilkinson Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:56 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A SUPER BEGINNER Question Many thanks! So now here's round 2. What is the advantage of using my keyboard as a MIDI device? I could go through a mixer and use it as as just an audio input couldn't I? Also, I know I'll have to choose the keyboard as a MIDI out, but before it's installed, why does nothing show up for the MIDI out? I have an Echo Indigo sound card. Shouldn't that be able to be used as a MIDI output device? ! I used to do editing with tape in college, but that was YEARS ago! I've REALLY wanted to get back into all this, but have just had one hell of a block! Thanks again. Dave Again, thank you for your patience. I've had some of this stuff FOREVER Candles for Christmas? http://www.candledream.scent-team.com/home.php -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Murphy Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:26 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A SUPER BEGINNER Question Excellent answer! An Merry Christmas to everyone! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicki D" <nicki_d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:17 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A SUPER BEGINNER Question > Kevin and Sean, > > You are both right, however partially. Sean is right in that the "no MIDI > device attached/selected" message has everything to do with what type of > MIDI interface, either internal or external midi card you plan on using > your > computer/Sonar to communicate through, (e.g. sound blaster, edirol um, > etc.), and not the keyboard or module being used for input/output. The > part > about which musical instrument you use for actually playing and / or > hearing > sounds comes under selecting an instrument to go with your MIDI device as > far as Sonar and your computer are concerned-- two different things: 1. > midi > device; 2. instrument definition. So if we limit ourselves to the "no midi > device attached/selected" message then we can say Dave you don't need to > physically connect your keyboard before choosing a device. However in > Dave's specific case since he plans on going through USB for > his > midi needs then one has to say yes indeed he would first have to connect > his > midi keyboard before choosing a device because his midi device and midi > musical instrument are all in one. > > I hope that helps. > > > Merry Christmas to you all, > Nicki D > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Kevin L. Gibbs > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:53 PM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A SUPER BEGINNER Question > > Sean, > I don't agree. He's talking about the MIDI devices dialog in sonar > and that expects a keyboard on the input side and modules or the output of > the keyboard on the output side. So, yes, his device is a keyboard. The > audio connections are irrelevant to this. They need to be connected via > Midi or USB. So, yes, you have to connect your USB keyboard before you > connect select an input device. > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Sean A. Cummins > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:43 PM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A SUPER BEGINNER Question > > > Dave, > > Your keyboard is not your MIDI device. What it is asking for, is the > device > you use to connect your MIDI in and outs to your computer such as an > FW1884 > or a SoundBlaster Live etc. > > If you purchased your system from Dancing Dots, give them a call and find > out what device you purchased. If not, Feel free to give me a call and > > I'll be happy to guide you through finding out. > > > Sincerely, > > Sean A. Cummins > Consultant > InVision Technical > PO Box 2015 > Cottonwood, AZ 86326 > (928) 646-7233 VP > SeanACummins@xxxxxxxxx > > Please note my new email address: > SeanACummins@xxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Wilkinson" <davewilkinson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:29 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] A SUPER BEGINNER Question > > >> Ok, I've owned this software for freaking EVER, and keep shying away >> from using it 'cause I have some weird mental block. But now my wife >> wants results from all the dough I've sunk into this stuff. >> >> I'm using Sonar 5.2 with the appropriate CakeTalking scripts. When I >> load Sonar 5, I get a message saying I don't have any MIDI device >> chosen. I assume this would be the keyboard which is indeed not >> hooked up yet. I have a cable that will let me hook up the keyboard >> via USB. Does it have to be connected for me to choose a MIDI device? > >> Couldn't I just plug the keyboard in using a quarter inch plug through > >> the mixer? 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