Hi all If there was an eastern general Aetius, who had his first consulship in 453/4 then what happened to him after this? Why do we not hear more about him? The subdue of the Hun should surely be recognised and honoured. Yet there is silence. Not a word about anyone called Aetius after 454. Surely this can only mean the eastern Aetius is merely a phantom. Regards Dane -----Original Message----- From: darkagebritain-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:darkagebritain-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Bowman Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:16 PM To: darkagebritain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [darkagebritain] Re: Aetius' fourth consulship Robert writes: >Kevin, the 'fasti Vindobonensis priores et posteriores' are the consular >lists as provided by a manuscript from Vienna. *** >Then leaf through (blättern) on to page 303, where you'll find the >fourth consulship of Aetius. Thanks, Robert. >The text is (of course) edited by Theodor Mommsen (of course only with a >Latin explanation, the dog). Better Latin than Mommsen's native tongue. As rusty as my Latin skills are (even after 7 years of study), they are still much better than my German. (My father, who served in the Army in Germany taught me how to say "Kommen sie hier, meine liebechen," but I don't think it ever worked for him, either. Add Wayne Newton, the Andrews sisters, and Falco and you have my entire German vocab.) >Now it should be mentioned that both these fasti as well as Victorinus >add the number IIII after the name, signifying a fourth consulship. >This however does not mean anything. We see the same with emperors >before that, where different men still get the number of the guy >before them (Theodosio VIII is the second Theodosius, but the 8th >consulship for the both of them). Interesting. That said, I confess that it is very odd that we should have a second Aetius elected as consul within the lifetime of the first. And, there does seem to be a certain logic to Aetius' assassination occurring during a fourth consulship. But, I defer to those with greater knowledge of this period. Kevin Bowman