My issue is IE crashes and restarts sometimes when I close it. Easy Transfer was a nightmare I had to use save to network share, use a differnt app to move Outlook data and something else. But the direct over my network I think it was my old Microsoft MN-500 as it even stopped serving wifi and ethernet too. Thank you, Eric Vogel ~Windows Live! MVP~ http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser http://shelluser.mvps.org http://msn.mvps.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Eddy To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:30 PM Subject: [CTS] Re: Vista Hi Hal…. Let me give you a perspective of sorts… I’ve been on every beta for MS operating systems since windows 98. I’ve jumped at the first chance to install the very 1st beta they sent me or had me download, and never looked back…. Every step of the way with Vista it’s been different. In many ways it’s a lot like having to relearn what you already know is there or do-able but they’ve moved it? I’ve been in on the very 1st Vista betas on thru till the end. I’ve had Vista Ultimate final installed here since it was released. I’ve run it a whopping 6 times at best? I’m constantly finding myself saying ‘and this is supposed to be easier/better’? To me it’s just not worth the effort yet? The eye candy is pretty but gets annoying after a while. When every single window that opens has to start small and ‘grow’ it’s almost like too much movement or something? The see thru windows etc… trust me after a while you find yourself being angry that the one you want and can see (kinda sorta) always has a window in front of it and hard to read? So then I thought, well if for no other reason than the added security? Well as you read the news pretty much every day or two some new fallacy comes out about Vista’s so-called added security. The new firewall that’s supposed to be so great?? Think again, Oh, it’s miles above XP’s firewall, But ,you know what happens when you install a firewall? The 1st time it runs you get 17 permissions windows asking if it’s ok for this program or that to log on…..Well, MS in their infinite wisdom, decided they didn’t want the out of box experience for a new user to be hit with 15 windows asking for those firewall permissions, so the outbound blocking is set to allow everything by default? Ouch….. that’s almost worse than no firewall at all? Worse yet you need a PHD in Quantum Physics to figure out where and how to reset those permissions. Do-able, yepper, but definitely Not for the squeamish. So then I thought well, if nothing else, the AV/Spyware thing should be synch? Who could possibly know more about ways to break into Windows and how to block than MS? Wrong again…turns out that MS’s Live One Care utilities failed worse than many other 3rd party apps? They (VirusBulletin) said it was something like 99.79% correct in it’s test, but the .21% miss equaled something like 31 different ‘bad guy’ issues. Now, that .21% doesn’t sound too shabby to me at 1st site, but the 31 bad guy issues sounds pretty unacceptable to me. There’s more, but that’d make this a very wordy email? Personally, it’s to the point where I’m running out of ideas on what’s trustworthy any more. What to actually recommend. All the big guys keep saying when the ever popular SP1 comes out things will be better? But, that too, could also be a lot of wishful thinking…. Quite honestly I’m heading to Mac as soon as my finances allow it. It used to be almost fun to fight the fight and win, It’s not ‘fun’ any more. Just my 15 cents…. Bruce ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hal Brown Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:40 PM To: CTS Subject: [CTS] Vista OK, just out of curiosity, who is going to move to Vista? I mean as soon as possible. Frankly, I haven't even looked at it. I've been through all the Winders changes from the 3.1 on, and I just don't care. I *may* have a look in a year or so, after I hear the problems with it. Thoughts on it if you are using it? -- Hal Brown email: hal.brown@xxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.33/678 - Release Date: 2/9/2007 4:06 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.35/680 - Release Date: 2/10/2007 9:15 PM