According to what shows, I should be able to do up to 16 pages at a time. But, depending on the book, or something, the OCR freezes after a couple of conversions of 12 pages. It's in the recognize part or the Save As (conversion) part. However, since my arm gets tired holding the book down for 16 pages I don't mind so much. Cindy --- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Cindy, for assistance on Fine Reader you may want > to mail Donna Smith. > If the creature lets you scan only 12 pages at a > time you may have very > little memory, or a limited version of FRE, or an > older operating > system. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. > Research Division, > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > > > > Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 12/28/2004 09:40 PM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss > > > To > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux > > > > > > > Guido, > > That's very interesting. I, too, have the 1660, but > of > course I don't have Kurzweil. I think it's Fine > Reader > that I ascertained it came with, but I'm not sure. > > If I used Image instead of OCR, how would I convert > the images to OCR, or can I not without Kurzweill? I > thought I tried once when I scanned with Image on by > mistake, but I may be wrong. > > The computer and scanner are for me like a car -- I > can drive it but I understand little about how it > works, except for all the information you and others > here share. (shamefaced smile) > > Cindy > > --- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Cindy, I am using a lowly EPSON 1660 with the > > Kurzweil 9.02 software. As > > I scan at 400 DPI in grayscale, the OCR engine > > would take a lot longer to > > recognize if I scanned and recognized pages > > simultaneously. So I scan > > images only. Then I submit the entire stack of > > images for recognition at > > the end Recognition will take anything from 20 > > minutes to 2 or even three > > hours, depnding on the length of the book and the > > degree of difficulty > > encountered in the reco process. No skin off my > > back though, I can do a > > lot of other things during that time: my > attention > > is not needed. > > > > As I recall, books with errors amounting to or > less > > than 0.7% are deemed > > excellent. > > Between 0.7% and 1.5% are 'good'. Submission with > > more than 1.5% error > > rate are deemed fair. > > > > But the reviewer has the opportunity to exercise > > judgment and override the system evaluation, up or > > down. If a book seems > > to have holes with frequent missing or corrupted > > words, I nuke it, no > > matter what the system evaluates, and add a > comment > > for the administrator. > > If the book has a bunch of 'the' misspelled as > 'die' > > I try to fix them one > > at a time, unless I find that to be a thankless > > task when that turns out > > to be just one aspect of a much bigger problem. > > So Cindy, I think you know my opinion by now. > > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > > IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. > > Research Division, > > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > > > > > > > > > Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > 12/28/2004 06:24 PM > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss > > > > > > To > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > cc > > > > Subject > > [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guido, > > > > You must have wonderful scanner!!!! There's no way > I > > can scan a book that quickly, since I have to scan > a > > page at a time, and can convert 8 - 12 pages at a > > time. > > > > Anyway, since so many other people are happier > > scanning, I'm leaving that to them -- but unless > > everybody submits in rtf format, that still leaves > > the > > problem of hard page breaks in txt books, which > > apparently some of you and put in and others of us > > cannot. My solution, as things stand now, is to > > download a txt file, reject it, and re-submit it > as > > an > > rtf file -- which means someone else will then > have > > to > > validate it. > > > > But you bring up something I've been wondering > > about: > > Should a book that is spell-checked only, and > > garbage > > removed, be approved as being in excellent > > condition, > > or good? What about scanning errors that pass the > > spell-check, like "be" for "he," the number one > for > > capital I, lie for the, etc. And words that are > > missing completely from sentences. I know the > > excellent rating allows for some errors, but how > > many > > before it becomes Good instead of Excellent? I > > recently worked in a book that had a lot of > missing > > words. I would suspect that the omissions wouldn't > > have made much difference to the reader, and I > > suppose > > that in the cases of the other examples I gave any > > reader could make changes as he/she read, but I > > wonder > > if it wouldn't be better for books that haven't > been > > read and corrected by the validator to have a Good > > rating and leave the Excellent for books that have > > been done more carefully. > > > > Cindy > > --- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I know this will sound so dreadfully heartless, > > no > > > Charitable Seasonal > > > spirit and all the rest. But It takes a grand > > total > > > of just 1 hour and 5 > > > minutes to scan an entire 450 page paperback > book, > > > > > page breaks, font > > > info, and all the rest. Than it takes about 90 > > > minutes to do some basic > > > cleanup, and finally an average of a couple of > > hours > > > to spellcheck it. > > > > > > I really do not understand why we are even > > bothering > > > to discuss salvage > > > operations for DOA submissions, when the > culling > > ax > > > and a quick rescan is > > > the only merciful course of action for most of > > these > > > runts. > > > > > > Guido Dante Corona > > > IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. > > > Research Division, > > > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > > > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Marissa Mika" <Marissa.M@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > 12/28/2004 05:35 PM > > > Please respond to > > > bksvol-discuss > > > > > > > > > To > > > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Cindy, > > > > > > We're still working on it. (Gotta love > consensus, > > > huh?) Look for a > > > message from me by the end of the week. > > > > > > Did everyone have a good Christmas? > > > > > > Marissa > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > > Behalf Of Cindy > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:21 PM > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] txt page breaks redux > > > > > > Hi, Marissa, > > > > > > Thanks for the new list. > > > > > > Is there any word yet on what to do with txt > files > > > or > > > if they will be accepted without hard breaks, > with > > > spaces and page numbers instead? That doesn't > > > prevent > > > the breaks Word puts in in the wrong places, but > > by > > > adding line spaces or changing font the file can > > > probably be made to coincide with the book. > > > > > > When I finish Johnny Tremain I'm thinking of > > fixing > > > one of those troublesome romances, since I found > a > > > copy. As things stand now, I think the best > thing > > > for > > > me to do is to reject the txt file and submit a > > new > > > rtf file with page breaks. > > > > > > Cindy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile > > > phone. > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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