Way to go Robert! Robert, Kurzweil can say 'blank' or beep if you move to a blank line. Please send me a note privately and I will attach my default settings file that I use for Kurzweil. You may need to change the scanner driver assignment in settings/scanning. Guido Guido Dante Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. Research Division, Phone: 512. 838. 9735. Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.ibm.com/able "bob tweedy" <rtweedy2@xxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/28/2004 09:49 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux Guido I agree. As you and others know, I just got kurzweil 9 and the patch and even though it has been a learning curve as well as fun, I am still thinking of customer service for bookshare first and mostly. On top of that, my main computer went down and hopefully it will be back tomorrow with a 3.0 or higher processor and 120 gig hard drive. The memory will be 1 gig but enough about that. I am thinking of bookshare as well in this because the less time to scan a book but it passes my standards as well as bookshare's waas the reason that went into my considerations about upgrading since the computer is a little over three years old. If you don't mind me going ahead and ask a question here about putting in a page number where it belongs, particularly at the bottom of a page, does kurzweil put in a blank when it says new line? The reason I'm asking is because with practicing this morning, I went in and marked parge 45 for example and after checking, kurzweil didn't say blank after the period and it was on a new line. I just have kurzweil to use as an editor for now and want to make sure everything turns out like it ought to be. ----- Original Message ----- From: Guido Corona To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux Kelly, if the scanner is the cause of the quality problem, a minimal $45 investment will get them a perfectly good EPSON 1650 at the EPSON refurb store. If someone can't afford that, I can't even see how they can't possibly afford a monthly Internet connection charge. A barely higher $124 will get them a modern refurb EPSON 3170 in the same place. If Kurzweil or Openbook were too costly and rehab funding were not available, the ABBY Fine Reader Professional 7.0 is a perfectly high quality solution, as the spottless submission from Donna Smith testify. As you said, obsolete equipment is not a good excuse. A little up-front work prior to submission typically ensures that a good part of the errors have been fixed. A spotcheck can also detect bunch of missing words etc. . . Now, think about time usage: is it better to work 20 hours to salvage a single book, or spend the same total amount of time and end with 3 to 4 submissions at the end? Let's not even think about the fact that our paying subscribers will find the collection grown by 4 instead of 1 at the end of your effort. Let us think about our work benefitting other volunteers? Your 20 hours can be spent giving credit to 1 sloppy submitter, or give credit to 4 other good ones. Now, tell me where you will work, if the greater good of the volunteer community is paramount to you. And if instead you think about your own credits, as a reviewer, your 20 hours can get you 1 credit, or can get you 4, depending on what you work on. So, as you can see, whether you think about our customers, the volunteer community at large, or your own interest, the outcome seems to be the same. Unless we think of these files as orphan, hungry, sick children, in need of comfort, and nurture. Which I am afraid they are not. Guido Guido Dante Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. Research Division, Phone: 512. 838. 9735. Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.ibm.com/able "Kellie Hartmann" <kellhart@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/28/2004 08:19 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux Oh Guido, great Lord High Rejecter of all, <grin> That's fantastic if you have access to a copy of the book. Oftentimes the volunteer may not, and a certain amount of error-correcting really isn't that onerous, especially if you're going to read the book anyway. I do think, though, that it's nice when people who, because of older equipment, can't get scans that live up to our modern high standards go through and do some work on their submissions before submitting. After all, there's a lot more credit for submitting than there is for validating. Kellie