[bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another question
- From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:47:05 -0400
Can we maybe do a test? And if the Microsoft Word Table function does
work, can we please write up instructions? It seemed like some
validators indicated they aren't familiar with the Table function on the
Word toolbar.
Devorah
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another
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That sounds good for Daisy users, but I wonder what they will look like
when
the braille translator gets done with them. I am doubtful that they will
even be recognizable, but I would be glad to be proved wrong about this.
Evan
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From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another
question
>A few of you have asked more about tables. Tables made in Word using
the
>'insert' table command should be saved correctly in RTF and then
processed
>by our conversion tools into actual tables (like on a website). If my
>memory is correct, processing tables was part of the November 2005
upgrade.
>
> To repeat a previous post, tables generated visually using tabs will
*not*
> remain visually the same after the conversion.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jake
>
> Jake Brownell
> QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
> jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:53 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another
> question
>
>
>> Jake,
>>
>> If tabs aren't retained, how can we create tables as
>> tables? I'd love to know that. It would save a lot of
>> time.
>>
>> G.Cindy
>>
>>
>> Devorah, I do what Mayrie suggested--I translate the
>> table into sentences, even to the point of repeating a
>> heading if necessary. IF I can find some examples I'll
>> send them to you offlist.
>>
>> G.Cindy
>> --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Devorah,
>>>
>>> Tables done with spaces will be somewhat
>>> "compressed" in that vertically nothing will align.
>>> Tabs are stripped from the files completely because
>>> DAISY as an XML standard doesn't understand a tab.
>>> Tables created as actual tables are converted to
>>> tables in DAISY.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jake
>>>
>>> Jake Brownell
>>> QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
>>> jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Devorah Greenstein
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:04 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables in Bookshare
>>> books plus another question
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the protocol for tables?
>>> I've got quite a few in the book I'm validating -
>>> I'm using a library copy of the printed book because
>>> the scanned version is all goofed up, as I would
>>> expect. But what I'm doing is using tab stops and
>>> recreating a table in tabular form. Will this work
>>> for folks? If not, what should I be doing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> She says, halfway through the book and hadn't
>>> thought of asking before now!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, I'm wondering what screen readers will do
>>> with this quote from an 18th century midwife. Can
>>> someone reassure me that it is decipherable?
>>>
>>> 17 F At ditoes & Mr Poores. Birth 47th a
>>> daughter. At Capt Meloys allso
>>>
>>> Rainy. I was Calld from Mr Parkers at 2 hour morn
>>> to Mr Poores. Doct Page was Calld before my arival.
>>> I Extracted the Child, a dagt. He Chose to Close the
>>> Loin. I returnd home at 8 hour morning. Receivd 6/
>>> as a reward. Mr Ballard & Ephm attend worship, Dolly
>>> & Sally aftern. Charls and John Coks supt here. I
>>> was calld to Capt meloys at 11 hour Evening. Raind.
>>> Birth Mr Poores daughter X X
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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