[bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another question

That sounds good for Daisy users, but I wonder what they will look like when the braille translator gets done with them. I am doubtful that they will even be recognizable, but I would be glad to be proved wrong about this.


Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
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A few of you have asked more about tables. Tables made in Word using the 'insert' table command should be saved correctly in RTF and then processed by our conversion tools into actual tables (like on a website). If my memory is correct, processing tables was part of the November 2005 upgrade.

To repeat a previous post, tables generated visually using tabs will *not* remain visually the same after the conversion.

Sincerely,
Jake

Jake Brownell
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Jake,

If tabs aren't retained, how can we create tables as
tables? I'd love to know that. It would save a lot of
time.

G.Cindy


Devorah, I do what Mayrie suggested--I translate the
table into sentences, even to the point of repeating a
heading if necessary. IF I can find some examples I'll
send them to you offlist.

G.Cindy
--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Devorah,

Tables done with spaces will be somewhat
"compressed" in that vertically nothing will align.
Tabs are stripped from the files completely because
DAISY as an XML standard doesn't understand a tab.
Tables created as actual tables are converted to
tables in DAISY.

Regards,
Jake

Jake Brownell
QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- From: Devorah Greenstein
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  Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:04 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables in Bookshare
books plus another question


  What is the protocol for tables?
  I've got quite a few in the book I'm validating -
I'm using a library copy of the printed book because
the scanned version is all goofed up, as I would
expect. But what I'm doing is using tab stops and
recreating a table in tabular form. Will this work
for folks? If not, what should I be doing?



  She says, halfway through the book and hadn't
thought of asking before now!



  Also, I'm wondering what screen readers will do
with this quote from an 18th century midwife. Can
someone reassure me that it is decipherable?

  17       F   At ditoes & Mr Poores. Birth 47th a
daughter. At Capt Meloys allso

  Rainy. I was Calld from Mr Parkers at 2 hour morn
to Mr Poores. Doct Page was Calld before my arival.
I Extracted the Child, a dagt. He Chose to Close the
Loin. I returnd home at 8 hour morning. Receivd 6/
as a reward. Mr Ballard & Ephm attend worship, Dolly
& Sally aftern. Charls and John Coks supt here. I
was calld to Capt meloys at 11 hour Evening. Raind.
Birth Mr Poores daughter X X










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