[bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another question
- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:30:58 -0500
I don't know what others might think, but I'd rather keep tables out of
books as much as possible. The only purpose I see for tables is to present
data in a tabular manner, such as calendars, charts etc. Even then, it looks
like the bookshare tools destroys them anyway.
Sometimes tables are used to make information stand out in a book. In
Braille and speech they don't stand out, they just look strange.
Just my thoughts.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another
question
Jake,
If tabs aren't retained, how can we create tables as
tables? I'd love to know that. It would save a lot of
time.
G.Cindy
Devorah, I do what Mayrie suggested--I translate the
table into sentences, even to the point of repeating a
heading if necessary. IF I can find some examples I'll
send them to you offlist.
G.Cindy
--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Devorah,
Tables done with spaces will be somewhat
"compressed" in that vertically nothing will align.
Tabs are stripped from the files completely because
DAISY as an XML standard doesn't understand a tab.
Tables created as actual tables are converted to
tables in DAISY.
Regards,
Jake
Jake Brownell
QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Devorah Greenstein
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables in Bookshare
books plus another question
What is the protocol for tables?
I've got quite a few in the book I'm validating -
I'm using a library copy of the printed book because
the scanned version is all goofed up, as I would
expect. But what I'm doing is using tab stops and
recreating a table in tabular form. Will this work
for folks? If not, what should I be doing?
She says, halfway through the book and hadn't
thought of asking before now!
Also, I'm wondering what screen readers will do
with this quote from an 18th century midwife. Can
someone reassure me that it is decipherable?
17 F At ditoes & Mr Poores. Birth 47th a
daughter. At Capt Meloys allso
Rainy. I was Calld from Mr Parkers at 2 hour morn
to Mr Poores. Doct Page was Calld before my arival.
I Extracted the Child, a dagt. He Chose to Close the
Loin. I returnd home at 8 hour morning. Receivd 6/
as a reward. Mr Ballard & Ephm attend worship, Dolly
& Sally aftern. Charls and John Coks supt here. I
was calld to Capt meloys at 11 hour Evening. Raind.
Birth Mr Poores daughter X X
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Jake, If tabs aren't retained, how can we create tables as tables? I'd love to know that. It would save a lot of time. G.Cindy Devorah, I do what Mayrie suggested--I translate the table into sentences, even to the point of repeating a heading if necessary. IF I can find some examples I'll send them to you offlist. G.Cindy --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Devorah, Tables done with spaces will be somewhat "compressed" in that vertically nothing will align. Tabs are stripped from the files completely because DAISY as an XML standard doesn't understand a tab. Tables created as actual tables are converted to tables in DAISY. Regards, Jake Jake Brownell QA Engineer, Bookshare.org jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: Devorah GreensteinTo: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:04 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables in Bookshare books plus another question What is the protocol for tables? I've got quite a few in the book I'm validating - I'm using a library copy of the printed book because the scanned version is all goofed up, as I would expect. But what I'm doing is using tab stops and recreating a table in tabular form. Will this work for folks? If not, what should I be doing? She says, halfway through the book and hadn't thought of asking before now! Also, I'm wondering what screen readers will do with this quote from an 18th century midwife. Can someone reassure me that it is decipherable? 17 F At ditoes & Mr Poores. Birth 47th a daughter. At Capt Meloys allso Rainy. I was Calld from Mr Parkers at 2 hour morn to Mr Poores. Doct Page was Calld before my arival. I Extracted the Child, a dagt. He Chose to Close the Loin. I returnd home at 8 hour morning. Receivd 6/ as a reward. Mr Ballard & Ephm attend worship, Dolly & Sally aftern. Charls and John Coks supt here. I was calld to Capt meloys at 11 hour Evening. Raind. Birth Mr Poores daughter X X
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