[bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another question
- From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:26:33 -0400
Yes, in the case of the book I'm doing I think the author just wanted to
have tables for the sake of looking authoritative or something. They add
nothing. G. Cindy was kind enough to send me an off-list email with good
instructions about how to read through a table so that it makes sense in
sentences. In the case of this book, however, I am making an editorial
decision not to bother with the tables. As you said, Bob, they don't add
a thing.
Devorah
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another
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I don't know what others might think, but I'd rather keep tables out of
books as much as possible. The only purpose I see for tables is to
present
data in a tabular manner, such as calendars, charts etc. Even then, it
looks
like the bookshare tools destroys them anyway.
Sometimes tables are used to make information stand out in a book. In
Braille and speech they don't stand out, they just look strange.
Just my thoughts.
Bob
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From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another
question
> Jake,
>
> If tabs aren't retained, how can we create tables as
> tables? I'd love to know that. It would save a lot of
> time.
>
> G.Cindy
>
>
> Devorah, I do what Mayrie suggested--I translate the
> table into sentences, even to the point of repeating a
> heading if necessary. IF I can find some examples I'll
> send them to you offlist.
>
> G.Cindy
> --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Devorah,
>>
>> Tables done with spaces will be somewhat
>> "compressed" in that vertically nothing will align.
>> Tabs are stripped from the files completely because
>> DAISY as an XML standard doesn't understand a tab.
>> Tables created as actual tables are converted to
>> tables in DAISY.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jake
>>
>> Jake Brownell
>> QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
>> jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Devorah Greenstein
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:04 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables in Bookshare
>> books plus another question
>>
>>
>> What is the protocol for tables?
>> I've got quite a few in the book I'm validating -
>> I'm using a library copy of the printed book because
>> the scanned version is all goofed up, as I would
>> expect. But what I'm doing is using tab stops and
>> recreating a table in tabular form. Will this work
>> for folks? If not, what should I be doing?
>>
>>
>>
>> She says, halfway through the book and hadn't
>> thought of asking before now!
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I'm wondering what screen readers will do
>> with this quote from an 18th century midwife. Can
>> someone reassure me that it is decipherable?
>>
>> 17 F At ditoes & Mr Poores. Birth 47th a
>> daughter. At Capt Meloys allso
>>
>> Rainy. I was Calld from Mr Parkers at 2 hour morn
>> to Mr Poores. Doct Page was Calld before my arival.
>> I Extracted the Child, a dagt. He Chose to Close the
>> Loin. I returnd home at 8 hour morning. Receivd 6/
>> as a reward. Mr Ballard & Ephm attend worship, Dolly
>> & Sally aftern. Charls and John Coks supt here. I
>> was calld to Capt meloys at 11 hour Evening. Raind.
>> Birth Mr Poores daughter X X
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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